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How The Handlers Reacted To Recent Criticism
You Can Fool Some Of The People All Of The Time; And All Of The People Some Of The Time;
But You Cannot Fool All Of The People All Of The Time.

 
Whats The Joke? It's The Kennel Club Allowing Professional Handlers To Judge.
Now That Is A Laugh And The Kennel Club Is A Laughing Stock In Every Country.

 

 

 

 


Re: A message from your online form
From (Name and Email Supplied)
To tonymanning
Date Mon 21:37

Message Body
I would appreciate if you could put my comments on your site but without printing my e-mail address or my name, thanks.

With ref. to your comment regarding " good riddance " to Steve Dean. I wholeheartedly agree about getting him out of Border Terriers, at least in his position as Breed Health Co-ordinator as he appears to be this in name only, and yes the man is a liar. Several of us have proof of this in our dealings with him regarding the health of the breed. We don't want someone just paying " lip service " to the needs of the health of the breed!


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comments: Thanks for putting that info ( Good Riddance To Steve Dean) on your website Sir Manning MADE my day. Once again your bang on the money We need more of you in the dog world. Now all we need is him out of the breed and we can really celebrate then.Yep also have to agree with Reginald Perrins comments "The man is a liar" so as you said "Good Riddence"

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WOW! To tonymanning@terrierworld.co.uk
From:(Name and email supplied)

Date Tue 17:59 Message Body

Regarding Kerry Blues, thank you for having the balls to pin point the mob who have such cartel on this breed. If you cross them, good luck in trying to buy a pup. Xxx

[ You are absolutely correct, there is a 'Cartel' in Kerry Blue Terriers. These people are slowly decimating the breed, purely in my view, for financial gain. They endorse their litters 'Progeny Not For Registration' to keep the numbers down, thus creating waiting lists and increased prices. And, they have the audacity to call themselves 'Custodians' of the breed. Every
possible opportunity has been offered to them to explain why they endorse their litters. Not one of them is prepared to answer this. Tony Manning. Ed,]


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DogsBody (email:ijudge@lickspital.com) on Friday, March 25, 2016 at 20:44:22
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breed: West Highland White

comments: Editor, you have a lot of nerve to write what you have on your front page. But the bluntness is to the point and in my opinion quite correct. The KC should be grateful to all of the judges who accept an invitation to judge at their show Crufts. Experienced judges do fork out a lot of money when they are learning every aspect of whatever breed they are involved in. And no, the KC do not assist you in any way and are forever introducing more regulations that make it harder for up coming judges. Of course the chosen few who are as you put it "on the gravy train" they are already in there. You see it at every champ show, the same names who just change breeds from show to show. It stinks and everone knows it to be true.

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Grim Reaper (email on Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 00:28:56
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comments: Sir, as is usual your headline regarding falling registrations is bang on the money. If the KC has these two lists what is the point of them if breeders who endorse their litters progeny not for registration are allowed to do this? Surely the point of these lists is to encourage more people to breed from the endangered breeds. Or is this too simple an answer? Or are the KC just paying lip service to the breeds that are failing in numbers?

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[ Unfortunately, the breeders who practice this type of endorsing couldn't care less about falling breed numbers. They blame everything under the sun for the decline in numbers, when the truth is it is in the main, down to them who endorse. In my breed they claim that they support The Kerry Blue Terrier. My view is it is the support that the rope gives to the hanged man. ]


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comments: Dear Editor,
having read your story about corruption in dog showing I am amazed that this is still apparent today. The exhibitors old and new have always had their suspicions about this and sometimes for different reasons. The reference to the late Joe Braddon does not surprise me in the least, nor does the inference about his professional handler protege. We who are longer in the tooth than most remember the pet West Highland White that was awarded BIS at Crufts when Joe Braddon judged it.

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[ The Crufts Best In Show Westie when Braddon judged was regarded as an average example of the breed by many around at the time, there is no doubt about this. BIS? ]


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breed: Norfolk
comments: Dear Letters

I have read your story regarding corruption in dog showing. I am not old enough to remember the corruption scandal in the late seventies. Having read your story I can see where things could be made better and more transparent by the KC. People always complain at dog shows and many times it is when handlers come into the breed. We all suspect what goes on regarding the influence that they have. These people don't do any breed any good and it can be quite depressing show after show knowing that influence is being exerted by these people. It costs a lot of money to show dogs at every event. We see the same judges year on year just changing breeds. There are so many obstacles for new judges to get on the ladder. The KC as I see it looks after their establishment. Their clique of judges don't pay a penny to get to and be involved in shows and at Crufts many are in the best hotels. Your lead headline is bang on the money. Dog shit does stink no matter what form it comes in.

[ Professional Handlers in the main are exceptionally skilled and put in a lot of time in the preparation of their exhibits. However, there are some who have no input at all other than their influence with the judges. Exhibitors are not stupid. And you are correct regarding the judging merry go round. Go into any of the restaurants at shows and you will see them quaffing wine and feasting on the best, You may well see a couple of well known Professional Handlers there with them all too. Ed.]

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disgusted (email:) on Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 16:24:03
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comments: Dear Editor,

I have just read your article regarding the disgraceful antics from Zena Thorn Andrews and her shameful advert in the catalogue for the Dachshund Ch Show.

This woman has judged at the highest level and should know better. Mrs Thorn Andrews should apologise to the Judge and the club and show some Dignity when she is beaten. No dog is unbeatable.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by none (email:) on Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 15:59:26
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breed: Dandie Dinmont
comments: Dear editior,

having read the letter regarding the woman getting a ban from the kennel club it doesn't surprise me. I had a friend who was also given a ban by that lot in Clarges st.

They operate a kangaroo court with draconian penalties. Even if you mount an appeal and are successful the reduction in their sentence is nearly always minor - they never admit they are wrong. The whole lot of them are a brigade of shiny shoes and shitty underwear.

Every single one of them at the kennel club are pompous bigots. I would put funds into starting a different kennel club, anything has to be better than these self serving money grabbing worshippers of the occult.

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Reginald Perrin (email:rigsby@selaw) on Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 09:13:00
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breed: West Highland White
comments: Timothy West in his post says that the KC are a sneaky self serving lot, how right he is.

Remember the arrogant Professor when he described the KC as our Kennel Club? What a liar! Did he think that we would swallow that? Keep up the good work T.World and continue your quest for the abolition of Pro Handlers judging, there is massive support for you on this.

I judge and give tickets in a few breeds and when you go for lunch the topics are always dogs and which ones are doing the winning. Are other judges influenced by this? Yes they are and they can and do follow other judges placing's. I have heard a particular handler planting subliminal seeds to other judges when in the dining halls with the judges.

Regarding Mrs Pope although I don't know the full facts about just how bad a condition her horses were in, her treatment by the KC is outrageous. After being fined and banned from keeping horses for life, the KC puts the boot in when she's down, banning her for a year and fifteen years from judging and officiating in dog clubs. Her dogs were in no way mistreated, the KC said so, so why their involvement and why a ban?

Effectively, Mrs Pope will be 79 when her ban expires and she may not even be around then.

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Timothy West (email:brass@bradleyhardacre) on Friday, November 13, 2015 at 18:56:15
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breed: Border
comments: It's about time that the Kennel Club is being exposed for what it is. A Masons Lodge. Why do we put up with this sneaky self serving lot?

What we need is an alternative Kennel Club because at the moment they (KC) have a complete monopoly. You see the nepotism for their own going on all of the time. I'd put big money on Geoff Corish and his Flibbertigibbet cohabitant being Masons.

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[Flibbertigibbet - I like that word]

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not a terrier person (email:) on Friday, November 13, 2015 at 10:29:00
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comments: I have been visiting your site periodically for some time now and find it useful for many things - even though I exhibit in the Gundog group.

Having clicked the link on your lead page regarding how much involvement should the kc have I have to point out that in the two cases that you refer to animals were not involved. I would agree though that Sylvia Pope should not have been disqualified from judging for 15 years. That disqualification is totally disproportionate to the offence regarding her horses.

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anon please (email:) on Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 21:12:53
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breed: Staffordshire Bull
comments: To the Editor.

I must congratulate you on your story of the Lady who was banned by the kc. I was directed to your site a couple of months ago and what a good read it is. You also have all of the show information for nothing. Great.

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Intrigued (corishpastie) on Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 10:35:48
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breed: West Highland White
comments: Hi.

You have had a picture on your front page now for quite some time with Mike Gadsby BIS judge at Blackpool this year. There is a title to the picture asking, "What is wrong with this picture?" Is the answer the professional handler Geoff Corish has no business being there?

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[You are bang on the money! This blatant unethical behavior by this handler happens at nearly every show. At every show that he attends you will see him sitting (at some point) at the top table with all of the show officials. Is this wrong that a Professional Handler - who is paid by results - does this? YES IT IS. When will people smell the aroma of this? It stinks to high heaven!]

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Watch Dog (email:) on Monday, June 29, 2015 at 20:07:31
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breed: West Highland White
comments: Tony I have supported your campaign for some time about handlers judging.
At Blackpool I went back to watch the Best In Show judging. Professional Handler Geoff Corish was sitting at the table with all of the officials and the BIS judge.
This cannot be right. Is it any wonder why exhibitors think that corruption still exists when this is happening and the Kennel Club turn a blind eye to it! Come on Mr Luxmoore clean this behaviour up and put a stop to this.

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[I had more than three thousand supporters who signed my petition to the KC before I closed it. This particular handler thinks that he can do anything that he likes. If people just accept what he does and say nothing he will continue to do everything that is wrong in the eyes of right thinking people. He is actually shameless and is so used to getting his own way, that he thinks that he is untouchable. Ed.]

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clearthedecks (email:anon) on Tuesday, June 02, 2015 at 18:17:02
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breed: Dandie Dinmont
comments: Now that the chairman has been replaced can we look forward to equal treatment for all?
Would any other exhibitor be allowed to get away with not entering a dog on two consecutive occasions and then a handler
rolls up and gets the cc and best of breed?

The Cloverwood dog was not in the catalogue both times and the kennel club did nothing about it.

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Good Riddance Deano (email:Nerohasgone@madness.co.uk) on Tuesday, June 02, 2015 at 14:27:29
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breed: Border
comments: Tony, you have been indefatigable in your efforts to get the KC to see common sense regarding handlers judging. Please do not give up.

What a joy it is that the arrogant Steve Dean has been replaced as chairman of the KC. A typical arrogant Vet who presided over heartbreak for exhibitors regarding the examination of certain breeds at shows, refusing to intervene even when he was at the shows. We are well rid of him and his arrogance.

Keep up the good work, we all know that you have the interests of the majority of exhibitors, you are the only voice of reason in the press.

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[Thank you for your kind words, they are encouraging. Ed.]

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monitor the wins (email:) on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 at 10:25:41
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breed: Dandie Dinmont
comments: Dear letters,

I read the letter from "We Need Change" on Tues 5th May.It is an interesting idea that the writer has when they say, "Why does your website not collect data about when handlers judge one another and what the results are?"

I would go a step further and monitor the wins of breeders who have their dogs handled - not necessarily by a paid handler whilst the breeder mainly judges. If the breeder's dogs are awarded high places when a Pro Handler judges, is there a reciprocal award to the handler when the breeder judges? There is in my mind a lot of corruption in dogs but not as blatant as it was some years ago. When we hear of dogs changing hands for many thousands of pounds (£50.000/£60.000 and some for even more) it is a lucrative business where corruption can flourish.

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[A while ago I had a notion to examine if corruption exists in the Exhibition of Pedigree Dogs today. I compiled a lot of data from the late seventies when the Sunday Papers investigated this. One Judge at that time even patrolled the grooming areas at shows where the Professional Handlers worked, openly asking who wanted to buy the CCs and BOB when he was judging.
The investigative Journalists at that time were after a 'Mr Big' whom some say was the late Joe Braddon. However, they couldn't lay a finger on 'Teflon' Joe.
It was well known what Braddon did, it was simple for the all powerful omnipotent. I have it from reliable sources that he would influence judging by way of his considerable network of 'Lickspittle' underling Judges. His method was to promote a dog - through his network - thus enabling it to win CCs Groups and Best In Shows.
What was in it for him? They say he demanded whopping big cut when the dog was sold.
There was a court case in the late seventies and many big names were either involved or implicated. The case collapsed when witnesses failed to attend court.
Joe Braddon at one point was touted as being the top all round Judge in Britain, one of the untouchables. He awarded Best In Show at Crufts in 1976. His decision for the Crufts BIS award was a West Highland White Terrier. I remember distinctly that many regarded the dog as little more than a pet. A strange decision indeed.
A point of interest for me was when a particular Professional Handler was asked some years ago did he have a mentor in his early years he said; " The greatest influence was Joe Braddon" ED.]

The Further Society Drifts From The Truth, The More They Will Hate Those Who Speak It.
When Truth Becomes Silence, Silence Is A Lie.
By doubting we are led to question, by questioning we arrive at the truth.
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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WE NEED CHANGE (email:) on Tuesday, May 05, 2015 at 14:59:20
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breed: Fox (wire)
comments: Terrier World Letters

Sir, we have the ridiculous scenario yet again when a professional handler is not only judging the Terrier group but also best in show. This is at the Welsh Kennel club and the handler is Geoff Corish. I think that this man now has such an influence that he does as he likes.
The disgraceful AVNSC Terrier open dog class at WELKS portrayed this when he was awarded BOB, not the dog the handler. A superb Fox Terrier was second and the judge Vic Salt should be ashamed and retire from judging.
An idea. Why does your website not collect data about when handlers judge one another and what the results are? We could then see if wins are being exchanged

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[Your idea is a good one. However, I have more than enough work already without having to police something like this. Why don't you do it? I will certainly publish the results of any such data. Incidentally, have you signed my Petition? ED.]

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Dog World Tripe (email:WHO ATE ALL THE PIES BAILLIE?) on Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:14:28
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breed: Border
comments: I read with interest in Dog World about the recent 'PawsCars' event.
The writer whome I assume is the fat man from Falkirk says; "The Pawscars have already become a vital part of the canine calendar" Excuse me, but have I missed something, just what 'Vital' part of the Canine Calendar would this be?
It has been held for two years now and as far as I can see it's gratuitous self congrantulations for all who are associated with Dog World.
What are the bets that Geoff Corish gets Judge of the year and Michael Coad Handler of the year at the next event? They haven't got too many from the Clique merry go round left to make another event. Still I'm sure that two puddings Baillie enjoys getting dressed up in his 'Tartan Skirt'.

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[One should not antagonise a Martial Arts Expert; you could be in danger of him strangling you with his black belt in Ludo...]

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Anonymous (none) on Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 14:51:32
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breed: West Highland White
comments: Hello Terrier World,

I felt that I have to put the record straight. Recently I came across an article in Dog World "An interview with Michael Coad
and Geoff Corish".

One of the questions was "Describe yourself in no more than three words".
Geoff Corish's answer was "Polite, helpful and friendly."
That answer from Mr Corish has to be the Oxymoron of the Century. Geoff Corish is a man who is unapproachable, ignorant and a very bad sportsman who thinks that he has a divine right to win Best Of Breed.
All as I can say is to anyone aspiring to be a professional handler is Geoff Corish is not a good choice of role model.

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[ I think that you forgot to add the he also tries to intimidate certain Judges and has actually been know to verbally bully Judge's in the past. The Late Elaine Quigley came to me in floods of tears at Blackpool some years ago saying that she would never again judge kerry Blue Terriers after her confrontation with Corish when she didn't award him BOB. Regarding being a bad sport... this is well known. His incandescent rages when I have beat him for BOB are well known. He always storms out of the ring...deary me...Ed. ]


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WE NEED CHANGE (email:wakeupandsmellthecoffee@thkc) on Sunday, December 21, 2014 at 12:35:01
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breed: Border
comments: Dear Editor, I could not agree more with the contributer stoptherot@thekc.

He/She sums it up perfectly. I also found it very interesting that a certain pro handler had been on a judging appointment in Barbados where he rescued turtles. Ordinary honest exhibitors are lucky to get passed by the KC to judge our breed. Yet the KC had this handler judge best in show at Crufts.

It stinks and the Chairman knows it. Is this why he hangs his head (In Shame) in the petition picture?

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about time (email: StopTheRot@TheKC) on Saturday, December 20, 2014 at 19:47:28
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breed: Border
comments: Congratulations to TerrierWorld for having a petition about the serious matter of handlers judging.

The KC know that its wrong. I think that one particular handler has some sort of hold on the main people past and present at the KC.

Just look at the picture in the petition. The handler looks like the cat that got the cream, the chairman looks like a cat in a bag waiting to drown.

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anon (email:anon) on Thursday, November 20, 2014 at 23:49:36
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breed: Border
comments: To Editor.

Dear Terrierworld I would like to sign your petition but I fear that if I do there will be consequences. I'm sure that there are many others who are like minded.

The consequences of course are that the KC hierarchy are a vindictive lot and it could jepordise any future invitations to judge at Crufts. Steven Seymour was told this by a KC Official.

There is also the added problem of The professional handler who does the most judging. He has now become so powerful that he can make and break judging careers and woe betide anyone who crosses him.

This is the reality and as much as I would like to support your petition, I need to think about my own career. So I'm Sorry. I do know the best way to stand up to bullies is to expose and confront them, but ...

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[ Thank you for your message. I get what you say. The number of Exhibitors who have told me that they do not agree with 'Handlers' judging is astonishing. However, when it comes to objecting to it in a petition, it would appear that they shy away and I'm sure one of the reasons is what you have suggested. (You Could always use your Mother's Maiden name to sign) ED ]

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breed: Border
comments: We in border terriers have the ex and current kc chairman both showing and judging even though the ex doesn't own a dog his wife does we kick uphill most weeks especially under allrounders

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[ Yes we are well aware of what has been going on. These people are shameless and think that they are untouchable and can get away with anything. This is why you should support Terrier World's Petition to The incumbent KC Chairman Steve Dean. ]

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Angry (email:) on Friday, November 07, 2014 at 22:24:06
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Sir,

i have just noticed that a breeder from Ireland has registered two litters from the same Kerry Blue bitch with the UK Kennel Club. One litter was born in July 2013 the other in March 2014. The first litter must hardly have left the bitch when it was mated again to the same stud dog. This is disgraceful. The bitch must have been mated again five months after its 2013 litter.

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Vincent Mitchell Guilty As Charged (RapistMitchell@KennelClubMember.com) on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 at 10:09:09
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breed: Border
comments: Sir,

having read about the convicted Rapist Vincent Mitchell I was disgusted to say the least as would any right thinking person be. Having said this I was astounded to read a comment by an American [Cindy Cooke] who seems to be excusing and trying to downplay the behavior of this convicted arrogant man.

Here is her comments:
"Cindy Cooke � Top commenter � St. Mary's University, Texas

"I hope he is, in fact, guilty of these charges. I have to say, however, that it seems very unfair to have to defend yourself against allegations of crimes committed more than 40 years ago. Witnesses die, memories fade, and forensic evidence disappears. Still, I have a lot of faith in juries, as a general rule"

Try telling this to the children who were raped and sexually abused and had their childhood innocence stolen from them. Shame on you Cindy Cooke!

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[ This statement from Cindy Cooke sums her up; "I have a lot of faith in juries, as a general rule" It would seem that Cindy Cooke seems to think that the Jury were mistaken in Mitchell's trial. It's my view 8 years was not long enough. I have six children and I am repulsed by the fact that the parents of these abused children were probably allowing them to help out at Mitchell's kennels after school and at weekends; never dreaming that a monster was abusing them. ]

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Whiter Than White (email:) on Sunday, October 26, 2014 at 20:39:38
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Sir,

The revised proposal by the Dublin Irish Blue Terrier Club for the change to the breed standard for the Kerry Blue is a nonsense. The wording says "On an adult dog a small blaze of white on the chest only, is acceptable. A Large amount of white on the chest is highly undesirable."

How small is small, and how large is large? This proposed change is ridiculous what is its purpose and what will it achieve?

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(email:) on Saturday, October 25, 2014 at 20:47:11

breed: Kerry Blue
comments: letters/editor, one has to wonder why and who wanted the change to the breed standard for the Kerry Blue. I think that terrierworld is right when it said that certain people want to leave a legacy "We changed the breed standard" after all they
must be surely due for retirement?

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[ There is a big difference between 'Dog People' and 'People In Dogs'. One family and their lickspittle adjutants have far too much influence on the Southern Irish Dog Scene. ]

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norniron (email:) on Saturday, October 25, 2014 at 13:45:21
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: to letters.

After reading the KBT breed notes regarding the Dublin Irish Blue Club's proposed breed standard change for kerry blues the sec says that it will go before the Irish Kennel Club. What a joke! The IKC is controlled by the very same people who run the Dublin club.

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breed: Select Breed
comments: Sir, regarding your lead story about rapist Vincent Mitchell: What irony it is, instead of his penchant for exposing himself, he has been exposed by others.

We should salute those brave people whom he sexually abused when they were children for coming forward and telling the police.

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breed: Norfolk
comments: Dear Editor, after reading your letters page i was intrigued by a comment about the kerry blue page and the notes section. when i further delved into this out of curiosity i was disgusted to think that any one who has the welfare of their dogs at heart would continue to show a dog that was bleeding.

If this was true and the informant is correct, this exhibitor should be reported to the KC and banned from exhibiting.

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[ It is absolutely true. The exhibitor in question is also an official and committee member of The Northern Kerry Blue Club. ]

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Terrier World, after reading the Kerry notes 19-10-2014 I am shocked at the thought of a exhibitor who carried on showing a dog that was bleeding.
Who was the culprit and why no name?

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[ Why no name? come on; there is only one person who is so 'Vainglorious' to have done this... Guess ]

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breed: Select Breed
comments: Dear Editor,

was it necessary to print the letter about Carl Johnson? I think it is in poor taste at this present time.

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[I'm sure that all of those who honestly submitted correct information on their Judging CV for the Kennel Club would whole heartedly agree with the comment below being published. Carl Johnson had a meteoric rise in the approved Kennel Club Judges list to award CCs in a very short time. He achieved this by falsifying his CV to the Kennel Club and was banned along with his wife for doing the same thing. This is not untrue - it is factual.]

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LONG MEMORY (email:HEWAS@CHEAT.COM) on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 at 14:25:32
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breed: Select Breed
comments: Sir, reading the gushing laments about Carl Johnson almost makes me puke. Both he and his wife were cheats and both of them were banned by the Kennel Club and rightly so.
If they cheated on their judging CVs, where else did they cheat?

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short on memory (email:fixer@pampselore.com) on Sunday, September 21, 2014 at 19:20:01
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Hi, reading in the dog press about the kerry blue winning five consecutive best in shows "has any other dog achieved this" by simon parsons.

What a joke! Everyone knows that it wasnt the dog that was winning, it was his handlers!!!
Even the best in show win at crufts was a phony win. What dog has ever been awarded bis when it has tried to bite the bis judge?

It was down to the gay mafia, just like the rbis winner at Driffield 2014.

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Dear Tony,

I read on face-book last night an article that had been written by Andrew Brace called;
'The Root Cause Of Exhibitors' Dissatisfaction' and agreed with a lot of what he had written re; dog showing etc.

My dilemma is this; going back to a show at Birmingham when it was held at Perry Park B,Ham, we entered the Champions Stakes Class that Andrew was Judging; however this was short lived when my Husband duly placed dog on table to be “gone over” and he never even looked at the mouth and when requested to walk the dog the Judge {Brace} didn’t even watch as he was looking out of the ring as if waiting for someone to arrive who had obviously been held up. However, “his winner” duly arrived. Need I say more!!

Needless to say we wouldn't enter under him again as we felt that we had paid our fee to enter this class and deserved the same attention as others received but realising it was a done deal!

I felt very tempted to make a comment re: his article but as you know Tony I am in a position where I realise that it could have a negative effect on the club that I belong to if I did!!

I am concerned that Newcomers to the breed will be taken in by his comments without realising where he is coming from!! What would you advise.

[My advice to you is simple: When Andrew Brace is Judging The Terrier Group and if you are fortunate to win BOB DO NOT TAKE YOUR DOG TO BE EXAMINED BY HIM. TAKE IT INTO THE GROUP RING GO AROUND WITH IT AND THEN WITHDRAW.
TELL HIM WHY AFTER HE HAS FINISHED JUDGING YOUR REASON FOR THIS. I expect if you do this he will be 'Gobsmacked'. The problem with these people is that they are so much up their own arseholes that they think that they are Gods Gift - whatever that may mean - and untouchable. He can be seen at all of the shows that he attends with his little gang trailing behind him,...Mr Brace quotes Sheila Atter in his piece and her article about 'Bullying'. Surely he knows that one of the biggest bullies in Dog Showing is a Professional Handler. The late Elaine Quigley once said to me in tears at Blackpool when she hadn't awarded this handler Best Of Breed; "I will never Judge Kerry Blue Terriers again." Yet this man is Judging at the highest level as well as being a Professional Handler. What we must all remember is that Professional Handlers are paid by results; the higher the win, the bigger the payoff. Mr Brace also wrote in the article: "
"When I began in dogs it was well known that some judges were ‘crooks’ inasmuch that they actually sold CCs for hard cash … often euphemistically referred to as ‘a drink’. I believe those days are long gone, but we do still see CCs blatantly exchanged between breeder-judges, and top awards handed out for purely political reasons."
Question: Did it stop or just go underground after the News Of The World Exposed it?]
Terrier World is still working on resurecting the NOTW expose. If anyone can remember anything about it please email me at: tonymanning@terrierworld.co.uk Any information will be treated in the strictest of confidence. Ed.

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comments: Sir, after reading your leader on the front page of your site, I am astounded. You are making very powerful enemies in the world of dog showing. You ought to realise where you are where your place is and get back in line.

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comments: Sir,

please keep up the exposure regarding the handlers judging. There are more of them getting in on the act and rising up the ladder. There are now three in terriers alone who are judging groups and one of those best in show.

Exhibitors will only stand for so much. I overheard a heated discussion with Jeff Corish and another man about handlers judging. Corish was incandescent with rage over your constant exposures, his comments couldn't be repeated here.
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[I have never ever come across a system that is operated so blatantly regarding the above. It is wide open to corruption. The incumbent Chairman of the Kennel Club and his predecessor should hang their heads in shame.]

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Inagreement (email:anonymousplease) on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 at 21:42:10
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comments: Dear Letters,

You are doing a really good job with your revelations. Why don't you do another email campaign about handlers judging like you did over the KC Data Base?

There are a lot of people now questioning the unethical practise that is going on regarding handlers judging. The KC needs to clean up its own house regarding this matter and stop harassing exhibitors.

The photo of the ventriloquist, it's not really those two is it?

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[It could be Ray Alan and Lord Charles - Peter Brough and Archie Andrews? Who knows. Readers can always write in and tell us who they think that the 'Venrtriloquist is...] Ed.

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Dear Tony at Terrier World, I would like to say a heartfelt thank you to the work that you do on your blog. You have been like a breath of fresh air to the World of Dog Showing with your no holds attitude regarding the the sleaze that has crept into our hobby over the years.

Your highlights and exposures have been bold and brave and I'm sure that this has cost you any ambitions that you may have had in dogs.

There is a heirarchy in the show world who think that they are untouchable and do what they like, regardless of howWho's Running The Show? ammoral it may be. I liken you to Nigel Farage of the UKIP Party - you say what everyone is thinking but are afraid to rock the boat and destroy their careers; yes it does happen if you cross a certain professional handler!

Keep up the great work that you are doing, it can only make the show scene clean and a better place for the ordinary exhibitor to pursue their hobby.

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[Thank you for your words of encouragement. There is a stench that is getting stronger as the years go by and it's coming from the Kennel Club. There is a team of Professional Handlers who are doing as they please - presumably with the blessings of Clarges Street. Do these imposters have some sort of hold on the KC?] Ed.

 

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NOCORRUPTIONPLEASE (email:cruftsbiswithapet) on Monday, May 19, 2014 at 08:40:58
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comments: Letters: we all know what goes on but your website is the only medium that is not afraid to say it as it is.

You highlighted the fact that some judges were officiating when their partners showed their own dogs.

Thankfully your shaming of these people seems to have halted these practices. Many exhibitors are now questioning the absurd rise in Professional dog handlers judging one week and then working Professionally the next.

Please keep your campaign going and maybe the Kennel Club will start to understand that Professional Handlers should not be allowed to judge until they cease being paid for what they do.

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[The only way to have these goings on stopped is to 'Expose' them. Dog World Columnists 'Grudgingly' had to write something about the Practice of Judges and their 'Partners' exhibiting at the same show after Terrier World exposed Corish and Coad and also Irving and his wife doing the same. They say that Power Corrupts ...Absolute Power, Absolute Corruption.]

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comments: Sir, The Dublin Dog Show Society recently held a show. The Best In Show judge was the President Of The Irish Kennel club. He found his BIS from the Group that his wife judged, and his reserve BIS from the group that his son judged. When will Ireland wake up to these Strokers?

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Dear Letters,

I am writing a letter to you about the Gundog and BIS judging at Crufts. Both the judges chose dogs of types that make the showing world look silly.

Can you imagine either the Am Cocker or the Poodle doing a days work? The Poodle would probably drown with those ears!

The Gundog lady had a fantastic line up and chose the only one there who was clearly tarted up for the ring and not a working dog. No wonder we are the laughing stock of most dog owners!!

Mind you if Jack Bipsham had not chosen the Poodle he would probably have been assassinated!

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comments: There is some substance in what the writer who commented about POTY.

Also I would agree that there was a hint of prompting that wasn't completely edited out - one would assume that Simon Bailley prompted the judge about the Norfolk in the last four.

Just wondering, was there any need to address him as Simple Simon?
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[ The answer to your question is most definitely yes. Have you by any chance watched the Crufts BIS 13 interview of the Judge Geoff Corish - conducted by Mr Simon Baillie? The Obsequious Mr Baille was full of "Wows, Crikeys...Gosh etc. I have never heard a more sycophantic fawning interview in my life; "How Great Thou Art" it should have been called. Why didn't Simple Simon ask Mr Corish some real probing questions? For instance:
. Do you think that it's Ethical for a Professional Handler to be Judging at this level?
. What do you say to people who accuse you of Bullying Judges when you haven't won BOB?
. In 2012 you Judged the Utility Group at Crufts and your Partner Exhibited in the next group the Toys; was this ethical?
. National Terrier is your next show after Crufts 13, if you are handling, will this put undue pressure on the Judges considering that you have just Judged BIS at what is regarded the 'Premier' dog show, Crufts?
. It is rumoured that you are very influential in the selection of Judge's at most General Ch shows; what would you say to this?
. Some people even say that you have an unhealthy influence at the Kennel Club considering you are a paid handler; what would you say to these people?
. Are you a 'Handler' or a 'Walker'? You are never in the preparation areas at shows - the owners do the work and you walk into the ring. I could go on. The above questions would have been asked in a 'Real' interview not a 'How Great Thou Art'...Simple Simon is apt. ]

 
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comments: After listening to Clare Coxall's interview after the P.O.T.Y final she said that terrier people apologised to her because they didn't think that she new so much about terriers, oh really but then [she] went on and forgot the name of the terrier breed that she listed in the last four.

Makes you wonder!
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[She then did remember it - the Norfolk. But, was she prompted (and it was edited out) by Simple Simon?]

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comments: I have just read about the horrific crash on the M40 in The Mail Online that happened on Saturday 23rd November, when a lorry smashed into a motor home carrying three women and show dogs.

One of the women Anastasia Egorova suffered serious injuries to her spine, a broken leg, six broken ribs and pelvic injuries. The other two women Lisa Croft-Elliot and Carrie Russell-Smith are described as feeling battered, with Lisa Croft-Elliot said to be feeling "Very Fragile". Three of the show dogs died as a result of the accident.

What I can't get my head around is how can someone feeling very fragile take pictures of the horrific accident scene when one of their party is seriously injured; and also dead and missing dogs too?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512356/Three-dogs-killed-woman-left-broken-leg-crash-M40.html

Five pictures were published by the Mail Online. the article appeared online on Saturday 23rd November and updated on the 24th. All of the pictures are copyrighted to Lisa Croft-Elliot.

Presumably there was payment for these pictures after contact with the publishers. I'm sure this would have been
'Cathartic' for Lisa Croft-Elliot after feeling "Very Fragile"

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warren bradley (bradleywarren@hotmail.com) on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 at 17:02:03
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comments: if putting snide comments on an anonymous website regarding others is not slanderous then I apologise for your lack of intellect.

again I am pleased to notice that you have commented yet I see no name on the post, (very big of you)also there is no need to inform myself regarding American rules and regulations I am plenty informed on American rules.

again I will put my name to my post as I am not a coward hiding behind a MESSAGE BOARD.

Warren Bradley.
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[ In answer to your first sentence; Terrier World is not an 'Anonymous' Web Site. Further, there is no need for you or anyone else to apologise for my intellect. The name that finishes 'ED' within the 'Parenthesis' is an abbreviation for Editor;
Tony Manning Editor terrierworld.co.uk. My views regarding Professional Handlers Judging are well known; moreover, I have been campaigning for five years to have this practice stopped.
Confidentiality is Guaranteed in the 'Letters Section of Terrier World if the poster wishes to remain 'anonymous'
(See under the spinning Globe) I hope that this information gives you a better understanding of how it is on this site.
Tony Manning Editor Terrier World. ]

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Warren bradley (bradleywarren@hotmail.com) on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 at 12:43:51
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comments: I have been informed of comments regarding myself on this website, before any further comments regarding myself are posted I would like all to understand the situation.

no formal contract of any kind was agreed, I informed the secretary of paington dog show I would have to get back to them as weather I could attend. also to all the anonymous comments regarding myself I would very much appreciate if the comments could be named as there are many things that need to be said regarding all of this nonsense.

It is laughable how many people feel so free to slander others behind the keys of a message board when clearly they know who and where I am at all times, if anything more needs to be said regarding myself please send your comments directly to me!

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[ The comments in the letters of September 28 and October 12 are undoubtedly factual and in no way 'Slanderous'.
My comments regarding Professional Handlers judging have not altered one iota.
The American Kennel Club does not allow 'Handlers' nor anyone living in the same house as a Professional Handler to judge;
I really don't think that they arrived at this decision without thinking it through. ED. ]

-----Original Message----- From: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:44 PM To: mail@highampress.co.uk
Subject: Higham Press Feedback Name: Tony Manning

Comments:

Hello,
Could you please tell me if there was a change of judge printed in the Catalogue for Paignton Dog Show regarding Smooth Fox and Wire Fox Terriers? In the schedule it stated that Mr Warren Bradley was to judge both breeds at this show.
Kindest Regards,

Tony Manning.

Re: Higham Press Feedback FROM Kirsten Riley TO You

In the schedule for Paignton show the judge that was listed for the Smooth & Wire Fox Terriers was Mr P Davies. The actual judge was Mr Alan Jenkins as listed in the catalogue.

Kind regards Kirsten Riley


[ The above page is what was in the original PDF Download from Higham Press. There may have been a change of Judge notice on the Higham Press Web Site that there was a change of Judge for Smooth and Wire Fox Terriers to Mr P Davies and then to Mr Alan Jenkins. ED ]

 

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comments: In answer to the previous comment, warren Bradley handled and prepared numerous dogs at the fox terrier club championship show.

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[ I assume that this letter is in response to the one below. This is another example of why Professional Handlers should not be allowed to Judge whilst they still work for clients. I do hope that the Kennel Club have taken note of this and examine their policy of Handlers Judging.This practice is clearly at odds with fair play and it is open to accusations of Venality. ED. ]

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Wondering (email: handler) on Saturday, September 28, 2013 at 18:30:03
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comments: Hello Letters

I have just read the critiques for smooths and wires at Paignton. It would appear that the judge was a replacement for Warren Bradley. In his preamble for the smooths the Judge Mr Alan Jenkin apologises for the entry and states that it wasn't his. He also goes on to say, "What a pity it clashed with the Fox Terrier ch show."

The obvious question is, did Warren Bradley Attend the Fox Terrier Ch Show?

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Concerned (email:Ask) on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 at 15:27:35
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comments: Dear Terrier World,
is there any difference from last years stench of unethical behavior and the repeat at WKC?

Ronnie Irving was judging in 2012 whilst his wife exhibited and Corish and Coad did the same.
Now we have Mr Browne Cole doing the very same. It stinks and he should know better, everyone knows that the wire belongs to him.

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[ I am sorry to say that I agree with you if this is the case. I wasn't at the show, but if he was judging and hadn't been replaced for any reason it shouldn't happen in my view. It is irrelevant if a dog is a best in show winner; having your dog in a family members name to enable your dog to be exhibited when you judge is circumventing the rules in my opinion. There is an awful lot of cleaning up to do at the Kennel Club and this practice is one of them. Another is Professional Handlers being allowed to judge. The KC are very quick to impose rules for us which make life more and more difficult to get on the judging ladder and all of the rest of the petty rules that they bring in that makes exhibiting a nightmare. They should put their own house in order.]

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comments: Dear Terrier World,

I have just read your article about 'Entries' and handlers turning up with a dog that has not been included in the Catalogue.

It is notable that a certain handler seems to do as he likes. The classic example of this was when you exposed a Crufts Group Judge and his partner exibiting at the same show on the same day. I would like to know just what hold this handler has on Kennel Club officials who allow him to do almost anything.

We need a clean out of everthing that stinks at the Kennel Club.

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Hi Tony, Using another name as I wish to be anonymous if that’s okay with you.

I wanted to raise the question for discussion about Professional Handler Mr Geoff Corish and his entry in the last 2 Championship shows. These being Border Union Show last week and today Blackpool Champ show. He arrived on both occasions for Open Dog in the Dandie Dinmont Terrier Breed classes and gained DCC and BOB both times.

However, the dog was not shown as having entered in either of the show catalogues, guess they show proof of posting each time to the secretary???.

I can also remember this happening at least a couple of times last year. They must have a very unreliable postal system in their area, most of us enter online nowadays.

From Fed up with this happening.

[I have been sitting on this for a while and I didn't have the time to respond - my wife has been ill in hospital and I spent most of my time there. However, I will respond to this in depth any time soon. Ed.]

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congratulations on your work (email:welldone4usall) on Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 19:46:02
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comments: Dear Tony,

I don't understand why there are not any letters of congratulations regarding all of the work that you did in pursuading the Kennel Club to give us access to their Data Base. I have been waiting for some response in the Dog Press also about the work that you did. Have I missed it?

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[ In answer to your first point; I have received a tremendous amount of messages since the KC announced that they are to make their data base accessible with 'MyKC'. The reason that I have not published them is because I obviously cannot say that I was responsible for their decision. The KC are certainly not going to admit that I had anything to do with it. Moreover, in their press release they stated that 500 had seen the results of their 'soon to be accessible MyKC' at Crufts. They also said that they had been working on this for some time; well they would wouldn't they? If this was so, it should already be up and running.

Regarding your second point about there being nothing in the Dog Press; Dog World have had their ridiculous money spinning data base racket shown up for what it is; a waste of web space for gullible people to fill the pockets of its owner with money for something which is not fit for anything. Not surprisingly, they haven't mentioned Terrier world and the work that I did. (And believe me they all had the same emails from me as well as the thousands of other people that I sent them to)

The Dog Press like to pretend that they've never heard of Terrier World - this is why they will never acknowledge me. (who cares.) They also like to claim that they are champions in (and first) exposing wrong doings and unethical behaviour that some people practice and are allowed to do it by the KC. (and continue to do so) eg. Judges and their partners exhibiting and Judging at the same show on the same day.
The dog press were not leading the way with exposures, they were dragged into it by my continual exposé of these people on Terrier World. What has the Dog Press ever done about lazy judges that break their contracts and are in breech of KC rules; those who don't bother to write a critique? Absolutely Nothing! Terrier World has a 'No Critiques' page and judges who have not written up a 'Critique' required by the KC and in their contract when they accept an appointment; they are named on this page along with the breed and the show. This data has been used when the selection of judges is an agenda item.

We also have a real serious problem in my opinion with the continued acceptance by the Kennel Club in allowing Professional Handlers to Judge. The KCs Best In Show Judge for Crufts 2013 was Professional Handler Geoff Corish. Then we see this very same Handler at National Terrier (His next show after Crufts) running around the ring with dogs he hasn't even had a brush on. This surely cannot be ethical and begs the question that any fair minded person would ask; why is the Best In Show Judge from Crufts being employed just to take a dog into the ring?

I hope that this answers your message. Ed. ]

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From: raeburnfoot@aol.com t Delivery-Date: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:27 PM
To: tonymanning@terrierworld.co.uk Subject: breed notes

I want to say how dissappointed I am in the Border Terrier breed notes. Sounds like whoever writes them has a huge chip on his/hers shoulder and it is quite detrimental to our lovely breed and most who are involved in it. To write ...".Due to the amount of, groans, heard about who is judging where and the disbelief that such a person is judging at that level in the first place leads us to think that there is either a huge degree of apathy in accepting the norm whereby the breed, much like the rest of the show world, is run by the few for the benefit of the few, or indeed those who groan about things, don't have the gumption to do something about it"............... is so wrong IMO.
If all he/she can say about the breeders of the best puppy 2012 is that they are prolific says a lot to me. The remarks about the top junior breeder and the fact she has only been in the breed for ten years smacks to me like the breed note writer has not been in this breed for long and was a rather sarcastic remark to make.
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comments: Dear Editor,

can you explain what the writer of the message Kerry Blue (dunce@Bore-Um.com) on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 at 13:49:42 meant by saying:
"You couldn't even put my post up without cutting it to shreds"?

Thank you.
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[ The answer to your question is yes I will explain. Does the anonymous 'Gobshite' poster think that I will publish everything that they write about me - without identifying themselves? If they do think this, they are even bigger 'Gobshites' than I first thought. I have given them the opportunity to have their comments published in full - if they identify themselves along with a valid email address. So far they have not responded to my offer. ] Ed.


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comments: Yes Tony you will be lectured by me. You need not try to tell me about on un-signed posts or "No Need for Introductions" as a call name.You couldn't even put my post up without cutting it to shreds. Was it you who put up a show report and asked it to be printed entirely or not at all?
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[ You are correct about "No Need for Introductions" However, your memory is short. I had already introduced myself on that anonymous website and my subsequent postings thereafter all started with, "No Need for Introductions", everyone knew it was me that started a posting with that. (No big revelation there) Regarding me asking for a show report to be printed entirely or not at all is correct. However, my name was associated with the report, unlike you who are hiding behind anonymity.
If you want a debate with me about anything, I will publish your comments in full. However, you will have to identify yourself and add a valid email address. There is an old adage; "Heros Die Once, Cowards Die A Thousand Deaths." ] Ed.


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comments: Dear Editor or reporter.

It is a great shame that the articles on this website are becoming more and more hostile towards owners, exhibitors and breeders of Kerry Blues.

The site sometimes champions issues that are of concern to people in the dog world and rightly so. It is a shame on the editor to let this extend to people that he has personal issues with.

See yourself as other kerry people see you.

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[ First and foremost I will not be lectured to by an 'Anonymous' (no guts) poster. There is nothing that I - Tony Manning, finger print, photograph and DNA if you like - do or say that is anonymous.
Who are the " owners, exhibitors and breeders of Kerry Blues. " that I am ' Hostile' to? Anyone that is reading your comments would think that there is a substantial number; there is not.
Seeing that you have not named the three people in question, I will do it for you.
They are: Mr Corish (Professional Dog Walker), Mrs Munro (Breeder Exhibitor) and Mr Ramsay (Breeder Exibitor). Let me start with Mr Corish. Everything that I have ever written about him is accurate, Mr Corish of course has said an awful lot about me - to anyone who will listen to him, with his behind the hand Chinese whispers. Next there is Mrs Munro, who for years sniped away at anyone whom she disliked in her breed notes - without challenge - everything that I have ever written about her is accurate, whereas she has spoken many inaccuracies about me - even telling lies to Vincent Mitchell that I had sent him an anonymous letter. ( I don't do anonymous.) And finally there is Mr Ramsay. Everything that I have ever written about him has been accurate too. Now you may think that he should be portrayed as some sort of Saint. Mr Ramsay is a nasty little piece of work. I recall some years ago when I was Chairman of Liverpool Terrier Club; we were at a meeting and Mr Ramsay made a nasty remark to the then Secretary Mrs Jean Shelly who's husband John took great exception to this viscous snipe - and rightly so. Mr Ramsay's reply to her husband was to Headbut him. If you are referring to my recent breed notes regarding National Terrier, what I wrote about Mr Ramsay is also accurate. But if you think that the fill picture and the accompanying music is him, all as I can say is if the cap fits...
If you want a debate with me about anything, I will publish your comments in full. However, you will have to identify yourself and add a valid email address. There is an old adage; "Heros Die Once, Cowards Die A Thousand Deaths." ] Ed.

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comments: This is not my breed but I would like to say that I was appalled and amazed to see the Stafford bitch that was lame in the group also lame in the class judging. The bitch was put up against a younger but sound dog.

Loads of people have noticed this. This looks like incompetence or corruption and all done under the gaze of Frank Kane.

I have no vested interest as this is not my breed but can anyone explain what was going on in the Stafford ring?

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frank.kane71@btinternet.com ]
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Hello Tony

I hear that you are campaigning to get the KC to open their database to the canine world. I don't wish to be named but it is already.

Professor Steve Dean allows certain individuals in his own breed to access it now.

There is a new breed database run by a private individual due to be published in his breed, one that will go live before Crufts 2013. The owner of the site has full & unfettered access to the KC pedigree database.

It isn't what you know, It is who!

Regards Whistleblower

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Long In The Memory (email:) on Wednesday, February 07, 2013 at 15:17:44

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breed: Border
comments: Dear Editor, It made me laugh when I read in Dog World's "In The Dog House" section written by Simon Parsons.

There is a picture of Carl Johnson and Mr Parsons in his piece extolls the virtues of Carl and Di Johnson.

Those two were banned by the Kennel Club some years ago - and quite rightly so - for cheating on their Judging CVs.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Professional Handlers Judging (email:) on Monday, January 28, 2013 at 19:56:27

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breed: West Highland White
comments: Dear letters,

does the Crufts BIS Judge and his partner have no shame? The were both at it again at Manchester. Corish judging the Utility Group and his partner Coad exhibiting his Bichon in the Toy Group. Hard faced? You bet they are, they think that they can do what they like.

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[One wonders just what they have on the powers that be for them to allow this to happen]

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Kerry Blue (email:) on Friday, January 25, 2013 at 14:05:38

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: I would just like to let you know that I don't try hard to write badly. Writing badly comes very easy to me.Those that are unable have a valid debate, usually try to attack other issues (Like grammar and spelling)It demeans you, not me.

You should actually relish the fact that dogs are unable to compete at shows. It perhaps makes it easier for you to win with less competition.

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[I recognise the style of the above writer who has tried to diguise themselves in a similar fashion in the past. They also have a lot of insider knowledge about the manchester Group 4 winner. Ed]

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Friday, January 25, 2013 at 13:38:22

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: To the researcher who tries very hard to write badly, we will all look on with interest at the clique from the north who circumvent the rules docking their dogs whilst the rest of us cannot. Will they break the conditions of the Kennel Club and show their docked dogs at Crufts? This will of course as a previous writer pointed out, be cheating.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Kninkers in a Twist (email:) on Friday, January 25, 2013 at 09:18:24

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Have just did a bit of research regarding the question that was implied or asked about the Group 4 Winner at Manchester being exhibited at Crufts.I can only find details of the dog being entered at shows where there was not a gate fee for the general public( Please correct me if I am wrong)The dog has never been shown at Crufts previously. It would appear that the owner may have got a "legaly Docked" status for the dog.So I think it will be safe to assume that our "Arm Chair General" letter writer can go and relax at Crufts and not worry about lodging any complaints. And everyone wonders why breed numbers are down. Back Biters, Endorsers and Poor Sportsmanship.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by The real issue (email:) on Friday, January 25, 2013 at 08:57:15

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breed: Border
comments: Sir, owning a breed that is not customarily docked I have been following your debate with interest.

The whole point of the matter is not if the dog is legally docked or otherwise; ANY DOCKED DOG IS BANNED FROM ENTERING CRUFTS AFTER APRIL 2007!

Regarding the size of a dogs tail long or short. As I understand it there are a certain amount of vertebrae in the tail and docking removes some of them. A simple X-ray can determine a docked dog.

What concerned exhibitors should do at Crufts or any show where the public pay to get in is, if they think there are any dogs at the show that have been docked, they should report the matter at Crufts to either the Show Rings Director: Mrs A.P. Bliss or the Show Manager: Mrs V.C. McAlpine, preferably both; (Not the ring Stewards) and let them sort it out.

The Crufts schedule clearly states the conditions for entry. Anyone flouting these conditions and entering illegally, should be held to account by the Kennel Club, because clearly this is rule breaking and therefore cheating.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Kerry Blue (email:) on Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 20:55:53

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear 4 by 2 or in your case 4 by 4 and the phrase is "as thick as two short planks" It was you that asked who would lay their money down at Crufts and asked the question would the the group 4 winner at manchester be shown at Crufts. Perhaps I read it wrong and if so let me appologise. As to Back Tracking on court cases. If that is how you read my most, then Editor I appoligise for letting you draw the wrong conclusion fro my letter. And the information supplied on the process for dealing with a docked dog is clearly contained on the KC web site.

There is no need to even lay down the £35 because as you can see all you have to do is report it to the relevent authorities. It is a pity that you are having a problem with producing decent tails, but im sure you will master it in time. In any other part of a dog we have diferent lengths, short necks, long necks, short backs and long backs, even short legs. I'm sure that you get the drift. Don't worry about being called as an expert witness in court, there are far more experts in the country that they can call on. Its my bet that a vet might be asked and even then they would have to have some sort of medical proof to back up their assumptions. So enjoy your day in court as the "Complainent" not the defendant and certainly not the "expert witness"

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[Well it's crystal clear now that you have explained it all in detail. Ed.]

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 18:49:34

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Further to my comments to the "Secretary/defender of the select few who dock" a question.

These breeders who get away with having their dogs docked with the sham of them being used for work, why do they have the whole litter docked when they sell most of them on?

There is a clear case to be answered regarding the Vets that these breeders use. They are in my opinion collaborating in the docking of dogs for cosmetic reasons because they dock the complete litter without questioning if all of the litter will be worked. (supposedly worked.)

There are clear guidelines for this in the information leaflet attached.

http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/farmanimal/welfare/act/documents/tail-docking.pdf

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 17:50:36

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: In answer to the letter writer regarding legal action. First and foremost the dimensions of a plank come to mind.

Is she not aware that in my original letter I said; "My question is, how do certain breeders get away with showing their clearly docked dogs at Crufts? All of the rest of us have to show our dogs undocked in all its ugliness."

Yes, I can tell if a dog has been docked or not. Are we saying that we have a distinct line that have tails fifty percent shorter than the rest and that they are completely straight? But what the plank doesn't understand is; the Kennel Club clearly states that dogs docked legally or illegally after April 2007 are not allowed to enter Crufts. It's that simple.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Kerry Blue (email:) on Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 16:44:39

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Editor. I am not a secretary of any dog club. There is no threat of a Court case in my original letter.

The reference to a court case is a supposed court case that your letter writer might bring against the owner of a dog that has been docked. I don't want to egg someone on into taking a case. But I don't think they have the balls to do anything. But I do hope that it will be common decency that will prevent them from going down that road. Perhaps they fear that the dog will win the CC and are trying to lessen the competition.

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[Your back tracking re a court case is bullshit. "I look forward to the Court Case that they will take part in after Crufts" sounds very much like a veiled threat to me. And, you have an awful lot of knowledge about procedure which most would not know about. Where would legal proceedings be instigated from? Certainly not from someone putting in a complaint that's for sure; it would come from the person disputing whether their dog had been docked. Ed]

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Kerry Blue (email:) on Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 13:03:24

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Editor, I have just read the letter in regards to a dog with a docked tail being shown at Crufts. If the letter writer is so worried about this he can folllow the follwing guidelines. I commend them on their expert knowledge of tails in that they can tell from a picture that a tail has been docked. I look forward to the Court Case that they will take part in after Crufts (Or are they just stirring things up so that some Patsy will do it for them?).

anyway her is the Text as according to the KC What should I do as Secretary of a Show, if someone objects to a dog on the grounds that it has been illegally shown or illegally docked?

You should advise the complainant that such objections are a matter for the authorities not for the Show Society or the Kennel Club. He or she should be advised to contact the relevant authorities and that, if a successful prosecution is brought, the show society and the Kennel Club will take appropriate corrective action.

There is no obligation under the various Acts for the Kennel Club or the Show Society to check whether a dog is lawfully docked or not. Any offence, if it has occurred, would have been committed by the exhibitor not the show society. You should however note the objection in the Show Incident Book for future reference.

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[Clearly sent in by a Secretary - with cutting advice - and the threat of Legal action.]

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 00:12:54
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breed: Staffordshire Bull
comments: I don't normally join in debates and this is a first.

Terrier World's suggestion for the KC to open up it's data base is the best idea in a long time. Why they haven't already done this beggars belief.

They have opened up their judge's data base so why not the dogs?

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 20:18:37
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: further to my posting re docked Kerry Blues entered at Crufts.

Will the group 4 winner at Manchester be entered at Crufts? as you can see from the picture it has clearly been docked.

http://www.dog.biz/cgi-bin/generateShowResults.cgi?show=MANCHESTER CHAMPIONSHIP SHOW&year=2013&group=TERRIER&action=show_group

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 19:28:42
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: It's agreed it seems by all that DW wil take every opportunity to make money. They are due to run a feature in February called Docked and Denied. This is because even legally docked dogs after April 6 2007 cannot be entered for Crufts.

My question is, how do certain breeders get away with showing their clearly docked dogs at Crufts?
All of the rest of us have to show our dogs undocked in all its ugliness.

Three breeders imediately spring to mind. Will anyone put their money down to the secretary and complain at Crufts this year? These people already have an unfair advantage, but at Crufts they are also breaking the rules which are stated boldly in the Crufts Schedule.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Greedy Guts (email:) on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 13:58:14
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breed: Parsons Russell
comments: Dear Editor,

Re the Data Base for Dog World. This is a blatant grab for money from the gullible who will do anything to see their dog in 'Lights'.
Even at the lowest cost for insertion if a thousand idiots subscribe to it Dog World gets £25,000. Not to be sniffed at! And, a nice little earner for two bellies @DW.com

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Data (email:) on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 13:12:05
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breed: Border
comments: Letters,

Sir, Your observations are spot on re the newly launched Dog World DataBase. It doesn't have any content in it other than their employees and their relatives dogs. A minimum of £25 per entry to build a DataBase for Dog World is scandalous!

As you have stated the glaringly obvious way forward is for the Kennel Club to furnish one. They have everything that is required to generate a DataBase that is only in the dreams of Dog World, they only have to invest in a generator for it and I'm sure that they have the experts at their hands to do this with a limited amount of cost.

Come on Mr Steve Dean, give the people who put money into the KC coffers something back for a change!

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by database (email:) on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 09:48:06
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breed: Cesky
comments: Dear Letters, further to your front page comments about Dog World and its launch of their database. Any database is only as good as the content that is in it.
I agree that this is a money spinner for Dog World and if it is a white elephant you will not get your money back.
However, if Dog World do get enough gullible people to subscribe to their database, their claim that it will be free to view is misleading; free for how long?

It is my view that after a period Dog World will ask you to buy credits to view it. The idea for this database has clearly been lifted from the genealogy companies who operate in the same way. However, the difference here is, Dog World want gullible people to build up their database and pay a lot of money for it too. I think that it is sharp practice what they are doing.

The Kennel Club are the only outlet really for any worthwhile database, they have every bit of information already available. If Dog World really wanted to build a database for the benefit of breeders etc, it should be free to enter into it until maybe there is a substantial amount of data to access.

To my mind this is just a scheme for making money from its Scottish owner; not in any way for the benefit of dogs or breeders.

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Just a moneymaker (email:) on Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 20:10:50
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breed: Select Breed
comments: Reading your leader about Dog World and its so called data base, I tried it.
They say this in their advert! "The Dog World DataBase will be available for anyone to view anywhere in the world, free of charge"
Well, it doesn't work. Is this because there isn't any data in it yet and they are looking for mugs to add to it and charge them for the privilege?
The kennel club used to have something similar, it was called The Pedigree Program I think; they ditched it.
The fat man from Falkirk is only after your money. Even if mugs subscribe to it how long will it be before it is anyways towards anything useful?

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by nonemus (email:) on Sunday, January 13, 2013 at 20:11:59
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: To the Editor of Letters:

I am not in this breed but I was told of the hilarious Kerry Blue breed notes on this site and after having a good laugh I took the time to read them again and digest the contents.
There is a quote from the B/Note correspondent for D/World: "on one internet site were nine advertisements for Kerry litters with only three being bred by people currently showing, most others never having exhibited at any time.
I found this amusing for it is a silly statement. If you read it, it says "most others never having exhibited at any time." So, discounting the first three, this leaves six. What is the "most" of six? 4; 5; or 6? The Kerry writer for D/World seems to be making things up to pad out an argument. If you do not produce hard facts or name names you should keep your mouth shut.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool; than to open the mouth and remove all doubt."
Having spent some time browsing through this site I now understand why there is so much interest and talk about it. There is nothing bland about it and the controversial topics that the others close their eyes to are addressed. Good work TW.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Jim Royal (email:posterior@judge.com) on Friday, January 11, 2013 at 20:40:59
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breed: Border
comments: Sir/Madam,

I am in agreement with your Kerry Blue breed notes about training a monkey to judge best in show at Crufts. Judging best is show is all my ar..! Your nomination for 2014 is not to far away from 2013

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Tony,

Thanks for your kind comments. I try my best to make my crits reflect what I see and explain my placings and not just list points from the breed standard. When people pay £25 plus for your opinion I feel they are entitled to an explanation.

Stuart

From: ""tonymanning"" <tonymanning@terrierworld.co.uk>
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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Friday, January 04, 2013 at 13:08:18
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Just a well done note to you Tony.
Keep up your campaign. The kennel club shouldn't allow endorsements on a rare breed.

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 at 22:14:23
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breed: Border
comments: [It's all about having 'Balls'. And if it involves your breed or any other breed and you know of it and do nothing about it; you are as bad as those who try and hide it"

Shame their are'nt many in borders with Balls. Plenty of them r stuck up there own backsides to care!

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Les Peacock (email:) on Friday, December 21, 2012 at 21:08:52
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breed: Select Breed
comments: Yes you did Tony and I will not forget that,I had a lot of respect for you, and have stood your corner on more than one occasion when people have been slagging you off.

In my opinion we are still novices and still learning and appreciate ALL the help we have been given by yourself and others

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[There are many ways to help a breed progress and one of them is helping and encouraging new exhibitors, without them the breed will not progress in terms of the show scene. This may answer your question; "what have you done to help the breed progress in the last six years apart from trying to ridicule people" And, I don't try to ridicule people, I make sure that it's unequivocal that they are being ridiculed; I say it how it is and make no apology for doing so to anyone. I do not force anyone to visit my website, they do so of their own free will, in their thousands each day; and you are one of them. I say what I mean and mean what I say. If you don't like what you are reading why visit? I have more Terrier Judge's Critiques (Gen Ch) than both of the two Dog Papers and you don't have to pay a penny for it.
28 Kerry Blues were in attendance at LKA this year. In the past there used to be 80/90 all trying to qualify at the last show before closing entries for Crufts. Do you think that this virtually new practice of 'Endorsing Registrations' may have something to do with falling numbers - along with other things? Was your Kerry Bitch 'Endorsed'? It's a bit like buying a bike and if you have looked after it with no rust on it after 2/3 yrs you take it back to the shop and they let you have the wheels.
You are absolutely correct when you say; "by the way if i decide to endorse my puppies that is my buisiness, they are my puppies" of this there in no question. However, duping me into advertising your litter that have been endorsed - a practice that I am diametrically opposed to and you are well aware of this - is something that I will not tolerate.
You also say; "I had a lot of respect for you". Well, 'had' is past tense and clearly the content of your first email reflects this and who you are taking counsel from. Regarding people slagging me off don't worry for me; I'm capable of looking after myself - I have been dealing with those Maggots and the likes of them for years.
Your capitalisation of the word 'ALL' and the content of your first email says to me exactly where you are now - and it wouldn't surprise me if you employ the Greatest Imposter/Dog Walker of all, any time soon.]

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (email:) on Thursday, December 20, 2012 at 23:04:12
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breed: Border
comments: Quoted from your breed notes; " Now given the fact that These breeders (New Entrants For 'Custodians Of The Breed) feel so strongly about 'Endorsing' their pups "Progeny Cannot Be Registered" and their concern for the health and well being of Kerry Blue Terriers; shouldn't they be letting other Breeders know what Kennel it is and which Bloodlines have produced a Kerry Blue that has Progressive Neuronal Abiotrophy? And, given the fact that PNA is such a serious disease, if any breeders are aware that their lines are producing offspring with PNA and are using Stud Dogs with it they must be exposed fordoing so."

Sadly anyone who mentions any neuro or other inherited problems is treated like a leper. Unfortunatly i have seen first hand this happen to someone.

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[It's all about having 'Balls'. And if it involves your breed or any other breed and you know of it and do nothing about it; you are as bad as those who try and hide it.
Further to the Peacocks and their email (below this) to me; They both know my views about breeders endorsing their puppies registrations with 'Progeny Not To Be Registered' yet, they sent me an advert to be placed in the Kerry Blue Puppies section - all for free I must add - which I duly did. And I made an advert - with images showing both the Sire and the Dam facing one another further enhancing the advert. Then they asked me would I send them a larger image of the Stud Dog that they had used so that they could show buyers interested in a puppy, a picture of the Stud Dog. Which I did. (No Payment Was Asked For And None Was Given) Never once did they mention to me that they had endorsed their litter 'Progeny Not To Be Registered'. Considering the fact that I abhor this practice of endorsing registrations which in my view has decimated Kerry Blue registrations (112 registrations in 9mths in the whole of the UK)
maybe this will give readers who are somewhat puzzled by my reaction, a little more understanding for my outrage! Tony Manning.]

The Pictures That Tony Manning Did For The Peacocks Advert In Terrier World
[This is what I published for the Peacocks and they have the effrontery to ask what I have done for the breed. I have done an awful lot for them that's for sure; including giving them an expensive pair of German thinning scissors which were serrated on both blades.]


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Les Peacock (email: mill06@btinternet.com) on Thursday, December 20, 2012 at 12:44:59

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: tony get your facts right i said someone came to my house and said they had purchased a pup from a pet breeder, this puppy had neurological problems and he told me it was a brain disease associated with kerry blue terriers when he first contacted the pet breeder he did not want to know and this is why the owner of the puppy had contacted me to see if i could help him, but i could not, you are right in saying i did say that brain disease as i did not no the correct name for it instead of trying to ridicule me on your website by the way if i decide to endorse my puppies that is my buisiness, they are my puppies and as regards to vetting the owners we have and that is why we still have pups left, we are resposible owners and this is our first litter and we are concerned about the future and welfare of our pups.Our pups are not for breeders who turn out litter after litter to satisfy you with your fascination of the quarterly kennel club statistics up i know you have been in the breed for a lot of years, but in the time i have known you, you have never even owned a kerry blue, so why be so concerned as to the number of puppies registered and as to who is endorsing their puppies what have you done to help the breed progress in the last six years apart from trying to ridicule people

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Professional Handler (email:Stop The Rot) on Thursday, December 13, 2012 at 21:24:23
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breed: Lakeland
comments: Dear Editor,

further to my last message here is some more information.

Mr A Westwood, 144 Park Road, Netherton, Dudley, West Midlands. DY2 9DD
Primary Phone: 01384 259987

This person has been previously approved to award Challenge Certificates to the following breeds and approved to judge the relevant group(s) as listed below.

Terrier Group

Fox Terrier (Smooth).
Fox Terrier (Wire).
Lakeland Terrier.
Norfolk Terrier.
Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
Welsh Terrier.
(copied from the KC website)

This is an alarming state of affairs when handlers are doing this amount of judging to be passed for so many breeds.

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Professional Handler (email: Stop The Rot) on Thursday, December 13, 2012 at 20:53:13
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breed: Lakeland
comments: Dear Editor,

Your campaign regarding the absurd conflict of interests regarding Professional Handlers is failing miserably.

The Terrier Group Judge for Bath 2013 is Professional Handler Andrew Westwood.

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[Whilst exhibitors continue to complain about this practice that the kennel Club allows but remain apathetic, it will continue. Follow the information in the PDFs below and tell the KC Chairman of your concerns. The more people that beat the drum the less bearable it will be on the ears of the KC. The Kennel Club should be ashamed of themselves for allowing and encouraging this disgraceful state of affairs.]


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breed: Select Breed
comments: Dear letters,

after reading the article in your news section put out by the Kennel Club re "Old English Sheepdog could risk extinction" I was astounded.

Not because I think this is true, but because of the arrogance of the English Kennel Club. Do they think that they have the sole ownership and breeding rights of this breed, doesn't any other country have this breed other than the UK?

The English Kennel Club are up their own arse! They have been and are so used to having a monopoly regarding dogs and all of the rest of it that they ignore everything and everyone elswhere.

Get real Kennel Club and understand that your private club doesn't operate outside of London. Open a bottle of Claret in Clarges Street and discus the fact that you are not alone, pedigree dogs also exist elswhere!
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breed: Border
comments: To Terrier World:

I don't think that you realise what you are up against attacking the powers that be. They are vindictive and can be quite threatening to you in various ways.

You will be held back and delayed in your judging pursuits and most definitely never be invited to judge at Crufts if you continue on your present path.

Beware the Snides of March 2013 at the NEC.

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comments: The letter writer who is offended by your recent bulletin describing it as "offensive rubbish" must have led a very sheltered life.

I think that the real reason for her comments are that she supports what those rule benders are doing.

Does she not know that in 2011 Coad and Corish both handled THEIR dog Pamplona Bring Me Sunshine throughout the season, depending on I suppose which one of them had the most influence with any particular judge.

Then the outrageous spectacle at Crufts where they had no shame. Even Claire Balding commentating on the Utility Group described Judge Geoff Corish as being the partner of Michael Coad famous for their Bichons who has the UK top dog all breeds. And this all happening whilst the judge of the Toy Group was probably watching the big screen waiting to follow on.

They thought that they could pull off BIS with the Bichon but they got their eyes wiped.

The recent entry into these sordid goings on by the Irvings will be short lived.

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Please do not send me any more of this offensive rubbish.

[ I have only ever had two complaints out of the many hundreds of emails that have gone out. Yours is the second. I'm sure that you will evade purgatory and go straight to Heaven - possibly even ascend.]

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comments: It is nothing short of disgraceful that you and your horrible website are attacking Geoff Corish. What has he really done to you to deserve this treatment?

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[You could ask Mr Corish that question too, he may tell you in a 'Chinese Whisper'. Your accusation that I am 'Attacking' Mr Corish is incorrect; it is called exposure. These people need to be exposed because the lot of them think that they can do as they like without any comeback whatsoever.]

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comments: Dear letters,

Terrier World's revelations of recent times regarding judges, partners exhibiting and professional handlers judging, seems to be having a profound effect.

I overheard one of the said judges at Driffield blustering about your editor and making what can only be described as retribution threats toward him.

Keep up your good work Terrier World they are taking notice and so should the KC. As the recent poll showed the majority of decent exhibitors abhor what they do.

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[There is a long queue of people who have threatened me over the years - this Judge will have to join it at the end which is in Southampton; I live in Liverpool.
The fact of the matter is it's all about exposure and enlightening the ordinary exhibitor to what is going on by these people who consider themselves to be untouchable.
And, I would say this to them; your moral compass is none existent and just because the Kennel Club with its weak leadership does nothing about it, doesn't make it acceptable.] Ed.

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Subject: Re: Conflict Of Interest
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you're making me feel like royalty!! Love your site - I use it a lot

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Hello Tony,

Keep up the very good work, and we do appreciate that we are kept anonymous.

Kindest Regards,

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Hi Tony, Thanks for the update. I had a look today at Terrier World, the letters are always the first place I go. It is disgusting what is going on at the shows and you certainly tell it like it is, well done. Keep up with the good work!

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breed: Soft Coated Wheaten
comments: Just wondering if the pro handler's in question get cash in hand and declare all... If so the inland revenue would be rubbing there hands the amount they would rake in from these dog walkers.... thought please

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breed: West Highland White
comments: Dear Terrier World, you have made us aware of the irregularities that have been staring us all in the face.

It has taken so long for the dog game to become aware of the inconsistencies that are glaringly obvious. How much longer can the KC allow these goings on to continue?

The untouchables have been exposed and how! Keep up the good work you are a breath of fresh air.

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breed: Border
comments: The smell of rotting fish must be overwhelming at the kennel club.

A partner or a spouse should not exhibit at the same show one is judging at.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Letters,

you would think with all of the furore about the ethics of handlers and judges partners exhibiting on the same day, it would have been sensible for Michael Coad not to exhibit at City Of Birmingham. Not only did he exhibit his and partner Geoff Corish's Bichon Frise at City Of Birmingham, he also handled Kerry Blues.

I must say that the two of them couldn't care less about ethics or conflict of interests.

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breed: Border
comments: Congratulations to terrier world for finally dragging dog world into the discussion concerning judges and handlers. We are all sick to death of what goes on and the kennel club does nothing about it.

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Bravo To Terrierworld (email:) on Thursday, September 06, 2012 at 20:44:58
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breed: Border
comments: Sir/Editor,

I must congratulate your site for the continued exposure of the Judges exploiting the system. They have been getting away with it for years!!!

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check the data (email:) on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 at 20:43:34
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comments: Dear Editor, in reply to the writer of Bichon Frise Watch, the results from Higham Press may be an error by Higham if the Bichon Pamplona Brings It On is in two names.

It isn't in both names on the Fosse Data site.

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[If it is an error on the Higham Press site, those concerned should have it corrected. Moreover, if you make a mistake of this nature when entering a show the dog can be disqualified and if a CC is won it will be awarded to the Res CC winner. Ed.]

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Bichon Frise Watch (email:Terrier Group Judge) on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 at 17:25:59
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comments: To Terrier World. I wrote on 28th July and followed up on August 17th about the skullduggery that is happening between two Professional Handlers Geoff Corish and Michael Coad.

The Bichon Frise "Pamplona Brings It On" is their dog. Now it is being campaigned as belonging only to Michael Coad, re registered from Corish & Coad.

This is stinking tactics and they should be ashamed of themselves. Here is a list of shows that the dog has been entered for so far.

In Both Names

Windsor 12: BEST OF BREED : 5309 CORISH & COAD Messrs Pamplona Brings It On
Leeds 12: BEST OF BREED : 1332 CORISH & COAD Messrs Pamplona Brings It On
Bournemouth 12: BEST OF BREED : 2512 CORISH & COAD Messrs Pamplona Brings It On

In One Name

Welsh KC 12: Res Dog CC : 77 COAD M Mr Pamplona Brings It On
City Of Birmingham 12: BEST OF BREED : 1145 COAD Mr M Pamplona Brings It On

Geoff Corish is judging BIS at Crufts 2013, should he be pulling stunts like this? What has happened to the Kennel Club selecting Best In Show Judges using the criteria of honesty and integrity?
The Terrier Group Judge at City Of Birmingham was Geoff Corish. His partner exhibited their dog at the same show. One thing that's crystal clear here and that is, one name or two names registered with their dog, the dog belongs to Corish And Coad.

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[An amazing observation and very good points. I do hope that the Author of the above has emailed
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Name And Email Supplied - on Tuesday, September 04, 2012 at 16:02:17
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breed: Border
comments: If someone went into my pocket in a pub and tried to take £100 or so out, I would have to point out to the that it would be a very serious mistake for them to try.
Why then do aged judges verging on blindness, deafness and senility expect us to let them get away with it..??

At City of Birmingham 2012 a Border bitch was limping along for all to see except the judge who placed it....twice.

Surely the "old time guardians of the breed" rather than ganging up on new blood (which every breed needs), should have said something about it rather than keeping quite so as not to upset the apple cart!!! Newcomers realise it would be breed suicide to challenge the judges decision, which in itself, is inherently wrong.

Rotten to the core.....!!!

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Not a Terrier breed (email:) on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 19:14:05
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comments: To the Editor of Terrier World.

Sir/Madam,

I was given your site address and told that you are not afraid to confront issues that the popular dog press avoids. Well I can fully understand why you are being hailed as a no nonsense web site.

Your article about the two recent health test failures at Welsh Kennel Club was spot on and the comments about the KC Chairman ring so true. Keep up the brilliant work, we need more of this.

I was also forwarded a copy of your PDF regarding Handlers. You are certainly not afraid to call it how it is!

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[We try our best to expose the wrongs that are clear to everyone. The problem is, getting support. Exhibitors are afraid to speak out for fear of retribution - meaning 'Chinese Whispers' etc which can destroy a prospective judging career to name just one thing. The ones that we are trying to expose by outing them and their breaking/bending of the rules, all piss in the same pot.]

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Name & email supplied: on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 17:18:44
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Hi, I received this email which I think you may well be interested as I read the details of Professional Handlers Judging and Showing etc. I have been asked to send this to you so you can perhaps make a point here.

breed: Border
comments: Hi *********** - perhaps you should let terrierworld know what is going to happen this weekend - Frank Kane judging Border Terriers at SKC - he gave ************** the group at Bournemouth - he is also entered up at SKC -

Mr Irving is judging previous day ( working group ) so Kate [Mrs Irving] will show *********** as it is in her name under Frank - is this also sailing close to wind ?

Jean Singh judged French Bulldogs at SKC a few years ago , then went & handled a Border Terrier not in her name the following day & was fined as it was too close to the wind - how is next week/end any different ?

Only that Ronnie [Irving] will get expenses so both travel free !! Whereas Jean had to pay hers [Expenses] to show there !!

PS Ronnie [Irving] handled *************** several times this year , as recently as East of England - so how is that NOT a conflict of interest ? It will be interesting to see if he is withdrawn.

Talk about do as I say not as I do !!
Hope all is well with you & yours ********* x

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comments: I wrote on the 28th July: How odd that the new Bichon being campaigned is registered in the names of: Messrs CORISH & COAD "Pamplona Brings It On" Is Geoff hanging up his judging boots after Crufts 2013? Because Coad won't be able to exhibit this dog if Geoff is judging if it's registered in both names. It's an interesting development that's for sure.

Well It's confirmed now that Geoff will be continuing his Judging career.

The Bichon 'Pamplona Brings It On' has now only one name attached to it. (They wouldn't be allowed to show it at City Of Birmingham in both names because Geoff Corish is The Terrier Group Judge)

It has gone from: CORISH & COAD Messrs Pamplona Brings It On BICHON FRISE - Dog:

to: COAD M Mr Pamplona Brings It On (At Welsh KC) I will continue to monitor their progress with interest.

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elastic banding works (email:must be kept on to work) on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 at 19:31:10
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breed: Norfolk
comments: Dear Terrier World,reading mugspotter's comments I had a notion.

Are the two top pros bringing in another Norfolk and are looking for investors again to have their names on the dog?

They must do better this time if it has a suspect mouth, you can't afford to leave the elastic banding off or the teeth won't go back!

I wonder if the last idiots ever had their money returned to them because of the incompetence of these two? Two to three thousand pounds isn't chicken feed.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Editor,

It was interesting to see the two so called 'Top Handlers' at the Kerry Blue ring at Bournemouth.
Are they looking for another 'Mug' to handle for?

You know the ones, they trim their own dog, bring it to the show and one of the 'Special' ones
walks it around the ring and charges you £50-60 for starters. Parasites!

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Stuart Yearley (email:stuartyearley@yahoo.co.uk) on Sunday, August 05, 2012 at 16:02:41
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breed: Bedlington
comments: Ref: Benching

Sirs,

Have the Kennel Club seen the chaos that ensues at many unbenched Open Shows or don't they lower themselves to attend these events?

I, for one, don't want this to happen at Champ. Shows. Things would be far better for all if the current benching rules were properly enforced with rings situated near the benches. Some societies manage it. The cost of benching is minimal when compared with the overall cost of exhibiting a dog.

All that abandoning benching will do is allow societies to reduce the size of venues and have people and dogs tripping over each other as they try to reach their rings past the selfish and greedy who already hog the ringside with their encampments and stay there all day.

It is common to have to pass slobbering or agressive dogs from previous breeds encamped next to the entrances of rings and then have to suffer abuse as you try to find a way through.

I stand to be converted but I think this is bad idea KC

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comments: How odd that the new Bichon being campaigned is registered in the names of:
Messrs CORISH & COAD "Pamplona Brings It On"

Is Geoff hanging up his judging boots after Crufts 2013? Because Coad won't be able to exhibit this dog if Geoff is judging if it's registered in both names. It's an interesting development that's for sure.

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The truth hurts (email:) on Friday, July 27, 2012 at 18:41:11
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comments: Dear letters,

It isn't surprising that there has been only one letter of support for professional handlers who judge. We are all aware that handlers are good at what they do when they take on a dog.

But, what should not happen is handling at one show and judging at the next. One has judged an amazing amount throughout this show season. Then this same handler starts 2013 judging BIS at Crufts.

It should not be happening.

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comments: To letters.

Sir, I must congratulate you for your stance re professional handlers judging. We all know that it is unacceptable, yet the KC do nothing about it.

I am sure that the knives will be out for you after the publicity you have given to this topic. The traditional dog press will never raise the thorny issues that you have highlighted.

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breed: Airedale 7-2-09 (Sent In By Keith Lovell 7th February 2009)
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Professional handlers often have an amazing knowledge of a number of breeds. They make a significant contribution to the quality of presentation and handling in our show rings. It is arguable that they are of overall benefit to the fraternity as their winning regularly exceeds that that the same dog would achieve if owner handled. They can have the effect of lesser dogs being sought for stud work and frustrated owner handlers drifting away from shows.
(However,I acknowledge that they also can bring out the best in a great dog that may never have made the ring without professional help.)

As for judging! Why? They have made their choice. They choose to be paid by the people who can afford them and there is no doubt they give value for money. Who however wants professionalism to influence judging decisions? Who wants to be judged by somebody who may never have read the breed standard? Why be judged by somebody bound not by the judges rules and ethics but with their own set of handlers rules and ethics. Such a prestigious appointment would see their stakes rise as a professional handler and certainly be good for their business.

Judges work hard to develop their skills, learn standards and gain experience. Let them do their job or lose them just like we have lost many potential future breeders and exhibiters who just could never get a foot in the door because of the amazing skills of the professional.

In many Countries' rules a judge is not permitted to handle for other people. In the USA a handler (or Kennel Club employee) is not permitted to judge in the USA.

Crufts, above all other shows in the UK, should send the right message. Surely with their amazing recources and The Kennel Clubs influence world wide they could find a qualified judge who has the ability, presentation and probably never judged a best in show before. Indeed I bet they have.

This is more than likely an ugly rumour and does not even deserve this response.

Keith Lovell
Airedale and Welsh Terriers Downunder.

[It clearly wasn't an ugly rumour, Mr Geoff Corish is the Kennel Club's choice to judge Best In Show 2013]

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From: Lennart Ståhle <Lennart.Stahle@hsv.se>
Delivery-Date: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:26 AM
To: '"Information"' <information@worlddogs.co.uk>
Subject: SV: <no subject>

Dear Tony Manning

Thank for the information. UI really think that this is a serious problem that you write about.

I have been in the dog world for over 30 years, as breeder and show organizer in Sweden and I am currently breeding dogstogether with partners in the UK (Irish Terrier and Smooth Fox Terrier). I am also passed by the KC to give CC´s in Irish Terriers and Samoyeds and I am judging at several open shows in the UK every year.

I remember that I was trying to invite professional handlers to judge at my shows in Sweden but at that time they were denied by the KC to do so and also the Swedish KC denied them a recognition. This that you are pointing out in your article is quite new, but there are also other handlers that judge at CC level even if Mr. Corish is an exceptional case.

At last I would like just mention that Mr Adlercreutz that is on the top of your list is dead since two years. Sadly missed a great dog man.

With best regards

Lennart Ståhle Deputy University Chancellor
Högskoleverket/Swedish National Agency for Higher Education
Universitetskanslerns stab/University Chancellor´s Office
Luntmakargatan 13
Box 7851, SE-103 99 Stockholm, Sweden
Tfn/Phone: +46 8 563 087 73
Fax: +46 8 563 088 50
http://www.hsv.se

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Elisabeth Matell <norfolks@cracknor.wanadoo.co.uk>
Delivery-Date: Sunday, July 22, 2012 4:03 PM
To: Information <information@worlddogs.co.uk>
Subject: Re: <no subject>

Why this witch hunt? I know Geoff Corish as an honest, decent, well mannered, knowledgeable, experienced dog judge and handler. Why are you hounding him like this?
Elisabeth Matell

[Do let me know of any other Professional Handlers who are judging Groups, Best In Shows and award CCs in 36 breeds etc and I will of course include them in future updates about this practice. However, you seem to be missing the point; It is unethical for Professional Handlers to be judging whilst being paid to handle. This is why the American Kennel Club does not allow it - nor do they allow anyone who lives with a Handler to judge. ED.]

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: To Terrier World Letters:

In reply to Kerry Enthusiast posted on Monday 9th July re the Arkarma Web Site.

I did a Google search for this site and there is a warning from Google saying visiting the Arkama Site will harm your computer. Why doesn't the owner take the site down and have it sorted out?

Has the owner once again shot herself in the foot?

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breed: Skye
comments: Dear Terrier World Does anyone else foresee a potential problem at Crufts 2013 with the BIS judge having handled some of the top winning dogs this year?

Could we have a situation where one or more Group Winners can not take their place in the BIS line-up because they have been handled by the judge. Based purely on the records of these dogs they must stand a strong chance of BOB or Group 1.

What will the KC do in the event of a dog being barred from going forward because of its association with Mr Corrish? Are they just crossing their fingers that it doesn't happen? Will they "intervene" at some point beyond BOB therefore over-riding the independence of the group judge? Or will they waive their own rules quoting "exceptional" and "unique" circumstances "totally unforeseeable" and cobble together some shabby compromise to avoid embarrassment?

And what are the poor exhibitors to do and at what point? And will the public confuse the non-appearance of a dog who has qualified for the later stages of competition but cannot be judged with health issues giving bad publicity to the breed in general and one breeder in particular?

It could be another bad year at Crufts.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Editor,

I'm sure that you must have had this before but I will state it again. Your website is the most informative site that I have ever come across regarding all of the Terrier breeds.

Your Judge's reports are second to none because you have more of them.

Out of the three UK breed clubs for Kerry Blue Terriers two have websites. KBTA and KBTC of E. Both of these two sites are embarrassingly out of date and a link on the KBTA site for the Arkama website warns you that your computer may be harmed if you visit the Arkama site.

Once again congratulations and keep up the good work your site is the very best!

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breed: Lakeland
comments: Further to my comments on Sunday, June 10
Handlers judging is a serious matter. Since the beginning of the year Geoff Corish has judged or will be;

Manchester: Chows
Crufts: Utility Group
Bath: Keeshounds and Min Schnauzer
Southern counties: Borders
Three Counties: Bichons
City Of Birmingham: Terrier Group
Midland Counties: Dandie Dinmont; Irish; Standard Poodle; Schnauzer
(Belfast and LKA No Information To Date.)
Crufts BIS 2013

It would appear that Mr Corish - if he isn't being paid to handle at a show, is languishing in the hospitality lounges or the restaurants with all of the merry go round circuit judges. Nice work if you can get it; eat and make merry with them one week and exhibit under them the next.

Look at the amount of contracts that this professional Handler has. Does Mr Dean really want to clean the Kennel Club up and improve the ethics so that there can never be any fingers pointed?

Come on Mr Dean, get one of your fellow Surgeons to operate on you and extract your finger from you know where.

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breed: Dandie Dinmont
comments: What a shame that Blackpool was a disaster from start to finish.

Reading Simon Parsons offerings this week in DW brings me to the conclusion; "They" never fail to promote their own. (See picture of 'The Little Dandie').

Birds of a feather flock together as the saying goes.

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breed: Lakeland
comments: Sir, do you not think that the big issue for the Kennel Club is allowing Professional Handlers to judge? The health testing will still go ahead no matter what; after all, they are out to give dogs a healthier life. Public opinion is against the Alliance's protests.

But, Handlers judging is a serious matter. Since the beginning of the year Geoff Corish has judged;
Chows at Manchester
Utility Group at Crufts;
Keeshounds and Min Schnauzer at Bath;
Borders at Southern counties;
Bichons at Three Counties;
Is judging the Terrier Group at City Of Birmingham.

He may have more appointments in the offing too. Next year 2013 he is judging Best In Show at Crufts.

Surely even the Hierarchy at the Kennel Club can see that this is clearly a conflict of interests.

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comments: Dear Terrier World, No surprises that the K.C. acted this way at the A.G.M, they were always going to give the Canine Alliance protest as little time as possible for a true hearing, they have used this tactic countless times before.

I think the time has come to seek affiliation with other governing bodies, we need an alternative to our own K.C., one governing body ruling the roost is not good for our sport, people must be given a choice.

It will never happen but we could all boycott Crufts the K.C. flagship show.

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Alliance (To Terrier World) on Tuesday, June 05, 2012 at 09:45:52
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comments: Dear Terrier World, how right your leading article is about the Kennel Club's AGM. The Canine Alliance it would seem is a toothless tiger.

The Kennel Club will as it always has done, do as it pleases. They care little about anything except making money. [sic] Registration Fees for both the Breed Register and the Activity Register should be increased by £2 from £13 to £15 from 1st July. (Approximately an eighteen per cent increase)

Nothing will ever be achieved unless we have an alternative club to exhibit our dogs. What are they doing about professional handlers judging? Absolutely nothing.

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Bichon Frise (email:) on Tuesday, April 03, 2012 at 17:15:58
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comments: Sir, you have pointed out a scandelous happening that occurred at Crufts.

The Kennel Club allow two professional handlers to bend the rules. One handler was judging the Utility Group whilst the other handler exhibited their dog in the Toy Group.

What a nonesense to say that the dog is only registered to one of them. They live together and it's their dog. These two handlers think that they're untouchable.

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nil (nil) on Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 19:25:39
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comments: Hello Terrier World letters,

well done for having the courage to highlight what is going on with certain handlers. The recognised press go along with it in my view, because they're all peeing in the same pot.

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none (email:no) on Sunday, March 25, 2012 at 21:22:47
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breed: West Highland White
comments: Dear Editor,
it is about time that the kennel club put its own house in order instead of attacking breeders to appease Jemima Harrison.

The absurd policy of allowing pro handlers to judge is totally out of order.

What hotel were the judges staying at on the NEC complex and did their partners share their rooms?
The mere fact that a professional handler is judging a group and his partner is exhibiting their dog on the same day is out of order and it would be fair to assume that they both were mingling with all of the judges in the hotel the night before judging.

They say that fish rot from the head down. You have inherited the odor from the previous chairman Mr Dean and it stinks. Sort it out professor Dean, chairman of the kennel club.

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To Letters (email:) on Sunday, March 25, 2012 at 18:47:46
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breed: Dandie Dinmont
comments: Dear Terrier World, after reading your open letter to Steve Dean KC chairman I must say I am surprised. Surprised because the American KC are far better set up in dealing with professional handlers judging. It doesn't happen.

Watching the judging of the groups on TV I heard presenter Claire Balding say as the Utility Group Judge was being accompanied into the ring; Utility Group Judge Geoff Corish Together with Michael Coad have owned many Top Winning Bichon Frises.

The Toy Group was the second to be judged and Mr Corish's Partner Michael Coad was in this group with their Bichon Frise. Surely this cannot be right. These two Handlers are being allowed by the Kennel Club to do as they please.

Well done Terrier World for highlighting a very serious problem that is growing. The Kennel Club should address this most serious conflict of interests immediately and take a leaf from the American KC.

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Stuart Yearley (email: stuartyearley@yahoo.co.uk) on Friday, March 16, 2012 at 08:03:46
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breed: Bedlington
comments: Unfortunately judges are over a barrel on this one. I stand to be corrected but I believe a judge can withhold C.C's and class placings but must declare a Best of Breed regardless of the quality or apparent health of the exhibits before him/her.

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anonymous (none) on Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 15:48:33
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breed: Scottish
comments: Dear Editor,

On the coverage of Crufts it was mentioned (not sure who by) that the KC will be asking the Judges who put up these dogs that were not passed by the Vet to explain their decision to award BOB to that particular dog.

This is dangerous ground for us as Judges I feel, I am not trained as a Vet and I dont think any KC should be asking us to downgrade dogs based on health issues like that.

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Stuart Yearley (email:stuartyearley@yahoo.co.uk) on Monday, March 12, 2012 at 22:51:14
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breed: Bedlington
comments: Where the K.C. got their veterinary checks wrong was in their selection of "high profile" dogs only for health testing.

There are many dogs around with far more serious genetic defects than droopy eyelids or wrinkles.

After working for thirty years trying to eradicate an invisible, but often lethal defect in my own breed, I feel that all B.O.B. owners should be required to show test results for any recognised inherited defects in their breed.

In the case of small breed gene pools, affected and carrier dogs should not be excluded or disqualified as this could eliminate many quality dogs from an already limited gene pool. Once a visible or DNA test is available it is perfectly legitimate to use affected and carriers of a defect to be used in a sensible controlled breeding programme. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Our own foundation bitch was affected with a semi-lethal gene which was invisible, but by careful testing and selection five generations of healthy offspring have been bred, culminating in a dog clear of the defect and of sufficient quality to be B.O.B. at Crufts and Top Dog two years running.

Most of the high profile breeds have limited genepools and it is going to take more than a couple of years to eliminate problems so come on Kennel Club give the breeders a little more time to make improvements. I appreciate that the K.C. is under pressure to "do something" but with the best will in the world you cannot undo a hundred years of breeding in a couple of generations.

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none (none) on Monday, March 05, 2012 at 14:39:31
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comments: To Terrier World.

Sir, I think that is is disgusting that the Editor of your paper says that he/she will name names of those who attended the seminar that Dog world held. It is up to the individual if they want to learn how to write a critique. Shame on you.

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[Ch Show Entry Fees average £25 nowadays. Then you have your traveling expenses on top of this and all of the rest that goes with it. If I am paying out these costs, then I would be none to pleased if the Judge that I had entered under needed to attend a Seminar on 'How To Write A Critique.' Ed.]

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will TW publish/ (email:) on Sunday, March 04, 2012 at 18:15:54
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breed: Border
comments: Dear Editor,

will you have the guts to publish the names of the planks who attended the critiques seminar?

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[If I am sent the names of those who attended the Critiques Seminar that Dog World held, then yes I will publish them. Ed.]

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Seminar (email:anonymous) on Saturday, March 03, 2012 at 19:14:47
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comments: I am writing to say that the comments regarding the judging critiques seminar are absolutely right.

Dog World are up to every conceivable racket to generate money. Could they be in trouble financially?

If they continue with this ridiculous judges critique seminar could terrier world publish the names of those who attend, those who haven't got the intelligence how to write about the virtues and the faults of a dog?

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Poor Ring Manner (email:) on Friday, March 02, 2012 at 20:12:04
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breed: Cairn
comments: What a laugh Andrew Brace giving a talk on Judges writing up critiques. Is this the same Andrew Brace who was fined by the Kennel Club for poor ring manner?

"ANDREW BRACE, one of the UK’s top all-round judges, has been warned and fined £300 over the nature of his judging of Border collies at Blackpool last year.

Following the judging, many people watched the video of Mr Brace on YouTube, and many more commented on an apparent lack of interest in the exhibits. Several complaints were lodged with the Kennel Club.

At its meeting in February, the General Committee considered these objections and subsequently upheld them. The Committee said it ‘was particularly disturbed by Mr brace’s cursory nature of examination of exhibits and his disinterested, detached and offhand manner towards exhibitors.’

He was found to be in breach of Regulation F9 - failing to maintain and abide by the highest standards in accordance with KC Rules and regulations and the Code of Best Practice for Judges." (Our Dogs)

Pompous as a description is an understatement. He can be seen at most shows swanning around with his little entourage of brown nosers, all full of his importance. he lists his University as;
"Birmingham College Of Food And Domestic Art"
His Philosophy is an Oscar Wilde Quote: "Always Forgive Your Enemies; Nothing Annoys Them So Much"

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Pompous Andrew H Brace (He's A Spoofer) on Friday, March 02, 2012 atn19:41:03
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breed: Manchester
comments: After reading the letter about the critiques seminar I went onto the DW site to see the article for myself. After waiting for pages to load timing out etc, I finally found it on news page 8.

This is just a money spinner for DW with the Pompous Andrew Brace fronting it along with a DW underling.

If we really need seminars to instruct judges on how to write a critique, God help us!

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Critique Seminar? (Pull The Other One!) on Friday, March 02, 2012 at 14:24:00
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breed: Border
comments: Dear Letters,

I have just come across an article in Dog World about their recent "Critiques Seminar".
I am absolutely amazed that dog World are so condescending to think that people are so inadequate that they cannot write a critique, it's not rocket science!

They claim that there was 60 people in attendance to hear Andrew Brace and Adrian Marett give their lectures. I would say that anyone who attended this so called "Critique Seminar" should never accept a judging appointment, they must be as thick as short planks.

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DOG WORLD RIP OFF (DON'T BUY IT DOESN'T WORK) on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 at 18:40:46
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breed: Border
comments: Dog World have launched a new App for their web site. What a joke!

Their web site doesn't work nor does the App. The app costs £2.99 from itunes and with it you get a 30 day free trial and then it's a £50 subscription for the year. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY.

Just look at the front page of Dog World's web site, it has a message on Dog World Updates which reads, "You may experience difficulties accessing the breed notes and show reports. We are working to resolve this problem as quickly as possible."
DIFFICULTIES? IT COSTS £60 FOR A CODE TO ACCESS IT!

This message has been there for months and they still haven't fixed the problem. The bottom line is they are charging you for content that you can't access.

IT'S A RIP OFF DON'T SUBSCRIBE OR YOU WILL BE DISSAPOINTED!

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Anon (Pony Express) on Monday, February 13, 2012 at 19:13:11
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Hello Editor,

I find your website very informative. I don't think that there is anything that you haven't covered.
Dog World website is a waste of time, they should seriously look at what they are putting out, most of it doesn't work.

The reason for my message is I was reading the Kerry breed notes and I clicked on the link to the Arkama website. I then had a look at the pedigrees. At least two of them are wrong. anyone researching breeding should beware of this site and its pedigrees.

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Christine Churchill (pagan@acenet.net.au) on Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 09:16:34
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breed: Manchester
comments: Hi

I have just attempted to read the description of the above breed on your site.
It needs a bit of work for it to make sense and suggest that it is proof read before being released to the public arena

I also understand that the Whippet was developed after the Manchester Terrier and that the Greyhound was used in the development of both the Manchester Terrier and the Whippet.

Regards
Christine Churchill

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IT PAYS TO ADVERTISE (email:) on Friday, December 16, 2011 at 21:57:39
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Regarding the letter in which it says that breeders of Kerries are finding it difficult to sell pups. Why don't they advertise their puppies?

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Wow! (email:) on Thursday, December 15, 2011 at 14:28:32
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breed: Cairn
comments: Dear Editor,
A friend gave me your business card at LKA after I voiced concern over the outrageous rip off that is happening when you subscribe to the locked section of Dog World. It doesn't work and is a waste of sixty pounds!

I didn't know your web site existed until I was given the card. What a brilliant site it is, with every result and judge's reports on one page. Fantastic! Your web site is like a breath of fresh air. Congratulations.

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Lyndia Salmon (email:windygap.kerries@virgin.net) on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 20:07:04
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: In reply to your breed notes, I was surprised at the comments that you made about Mrs Munro. I read her column again after reading your comments and how you can read into it that she is jealous of other people s success astounds me.

Mrs Munro has always run a small kennel, with continuing success. Although she hasn t not shown a large quantity of dogs this year, she has made up 2 champions, and has another one sitting on 2 tickets, so what has she got to be jealous of.

As far as your comment about the bitter break up between her and her partner, surely that is something that is private between the two of them. In her column she referred to breeders in Wales and Yorkshire and as far as I know, her ex-partner has not moved to either of these places.

With regard to the number of puppies being bred, several people that I have spoken to have brought up the fact that there are difficulties in selling pups, and that they are delaying breeding because of this fact. Everybody is entitled to their opinion without somebody being vindictive about them.

No doubt some people will say that I am writing this because I am friendly with Mrs. Munro, but I feel that the breed notes should be about the breed and not a vendetta against the DW breed correspondent.

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[ Reading the above letter one would think that Mrs Munro is waiting for Rome to 'Beatify' her. However, I have known the Dog World Correspondent a lot longer than the writer. What can be made of these Kerry Blue Breed Notes when the Correspondent wrote about a Welsh Terrier. (Nothing to do with Kerry Blues)
[Dog World] Kerry Blue breed notes Who was Mrs Munro referring to? Was this not referring to her ex partner? {It prompted this response} It doesn't seem that she wanted her partnership break up kept private to me, moreover, it is a classic case of a vindictive vendetta.
Who are these breeders in Wales and Yorkshire? - When she (Munro) refers to these Breeders and locations Mrs Munro is clearly quoting from other breed notes.
A quote from the same Kerry Notes that is about about our breed: " But to ask just a couple of questions; firstly its nigh impossible to show (particularly in a numerically small breed) more than a few dogs of the same breed at any given time so why the desire to constantly breed on an average of every four to eight weeks?" - Who is the Dog World writer referring to; it's not rocket science to work out who it is.
The other point in question about me being vindictive and having a vendetta against the DW Breed Correspondent is open to opinion. I will point out what I see as misusing the Dog Press for ones own gratification. And I make no apology for this to the writer of the above or to Mrs Munro. Further, If the DW Correspondent would like to apologise to me in her column for telling scurrilous lies to Vincent Mitchell about me re an anonymous letter that was sent to him; I may accept it. Ed ]

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Breed Critiques (email:) on Thursday, December 01, 2011 at 16:21:50
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comments: Dear Terrier World,

I was amazed to actually see a Critique from the Judge Tom Johnston in Terrier World. As everyone knows this Judge has been very lax in writing and having his Critiques printed in the past.

My own feeling is that his actions now are a direct consequence of your web site naming and shaming those who cannot be bothered to honor their judging contracts.

Well done to Terrier World for doing what the other big two publications and the Kennel Club have turned a blind eye to for years.

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just a warning (email:) on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 10:55:42
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Warning: be careful if you visit the Arkama web site and view the Guest book.

I think that it has been compromised, there are hundreds of links on it. Be warned, if you click on these links you may experience something that you hadn't bargained for.

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Kevin Colwill (email:kevincolwill@supanet.com) on Sunday, October 02, 2011 at 15:53:06
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: The United Kennel Club in America ban professional handlers and actively promote novice owners having a go in the ring. Could/should that happen here?

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Angry (email:none) on Friday, September 30, 2011 at 18:20:00
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comments: Dear Terrier World, I would just like to inform anybody who is contemplating taking a subscription for the Dog World sections that are now locked up. Don't Bother!

When Dog World's site was completely free, the show reports and breed notes pages were difficult to access, with the pages continually not loading and timing out.

Now that dog World requires a subscription to access these pages one would assume that they would have sorted this out. They haven't it's exactly the same and they charge £60.00 to boot!

They may offer the feeble excuse that it's your computer or your broadband. This is nonsense. I have tried to load the pages with the latest i7 processor and the fastest broadband available; even on Apple Computers in stores, all with the same result. Save your money!

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breed: Border
comments: Un Published Critiques.

May I ask those exhibitors with missing critiques for their breed, especially those from the serial offender judges who judge yearly and never bother to write a critique.

Contact the relevant Society and the KC . The KC will write to the judge asking for a copy. If enough people from enough breeds do this, then sooner or later this will hopefully raise a flag at the KC and make them uphold the regulations on submitting critiques. Maybe if they stop future appointments until past critiques are submitted..

The societies have a binding contract with these judges and yet they invite them year after year when the judges are openly breaching the contract. Complain to the Societies!

Mr Tom Johnson is the main one he is judging numerous different breeds in consecutive years & often at the same shows and yet never bothers to produce a critique.

Exhibitors - Write to the Societies & the KC now and stop this bad practice in its tracks! if you complain they will have to act!

In 2011 the same practice is operating once more Mr Johnson has failed to submit a critique after judging at Paignton
(This letter has been amended at the request of the contributer) Ed.

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breed: Soft Coated Wheaten
comments: There is far too much potential for those who are so inclined to abuse the system, by having Professional handlers also judging.

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breed: Dandie Dinmont
comments: With reference to the repeated wins by a 'Professional Handler' with the mustard Dandie in Breed classes, Terrier groups etc.

It would appear that The Emperor has new clothes is running rampant.

This is a pretty example of the breed who shows well, but has some basic faults which are easily seen on closer inspection and when moving. Maybe the gentleman is doing the winning not the bitch!!!

Entries for shows are falling in this vulnerable breed, and is it any wonder when with enough money one can not only buy a Champion nowadays, but also a consistent group winner, thereby massaging ones ego, just by using the right face to handle the dog.

Professional handlers should not be allowed to also judge in this country, it is a conflict of interest.

This particular handler is judging Best in Show at Crufts 2013 what a coincidence!!!!!!!

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breed: Scottish
comments: Dear Sir, I traveled down to Bournemouth at great expense in 2010 to exhibit under Tom Johnston.

He did not have a critique in the dog press to my knowledge. How does this judge get away with it? It would be interesting to know if he has ever written a critique on the breeds that he has judged.

Is there anyone out there that has read a critique from this judge in any breed? He does an extraordinary amount of judging,

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comments: Please if you do not possess any knowledge of the dog in a natural environment don't comment it makes you look silly, the dogs try to lift a hare, the KBT would never have the ability to take a hare.

Hide and seek the dogs are Pushing and Lifting pheasant, they leave the ground to see if the bird stops, if it does not, they carry on pushing (the bird did not stop) figure it out - waiting for a bolt. (ignorance is bliss)

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[ Your comments are lost on the 'Anonymous' writer who clearly doesn't have any knowledge about working any type of dog. I suspect that the 'Anonymous' writer is one of the clique that is circumventing the rules to get around the Docking Ban. They attempt to mock you whilst taking the cowards way out and not identifying themselves. This 'Letters' section will always respect anonymity for the right reasons. However someone who tries to belittle a genuine poster hiding behind anonymity is a coward. ]

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breed: Parsons Russell
comments: Dear Sir/Madam,
Having perused your list of judges that have not submitted critiques, I wish to add to that list. I have had it confirmed by Dog World & Our Dogs that Mr Tom Johnston didn't submit a critique for PRT's at National Terrier 2009 or Manchester 2011 (thus far).

He also judged PRT's at Welsh KC 2007 but I cannot remember if he submitted one for that show. I hope this information is useful. [We are well aware of Mr Tom Johnston's blatant disregard for Kennel Club Regulation Regulation F(1) 22-D ] Ed.

Kind regards,

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: On your First point Tony Firstly, I would like to apologise to anyone who I caused offence to

Yes your breed notes where offensive because they where a generalisation. It would have been better and fairer to name the dogs and breeders to which you allude.

Second point from you all I did was try and defend the dogs I have owned and loved for 42 years

I see no defence of the breed here. I found it an all out attack on others.

Third point You know the problem the editor pointed out, the pitter patter movement, can you enlighten us on that?

The editorial mentioned Pitter Patter movement therefore I fell no need to enlighten the subject, I didnt bring the term up.

Fourth point I try to defend the breed you attack it, try to belittle my knowledge. I told you hares squat.

I give way to your superior knowledge of Hares.

Next point You say the dog won't go in the long grass that it is after some sort of scent, what's that all about? If it was in there the dog would be in there

Okay, where is the Hare? Did your dogs find it ?

Next look at the other video long grass different scent. Try and understand it .

Great video, very amusing. I love to see Kerry Blues play Hide and Go Seek Or is that the path the Hares took?

Next point. As for the worth of the noses, by the way there's a 11 year old out with us here Lescariot Magical Milly, a true kerry. For you to cast a doubt on the ability to scent is a joke

Again where is the Hare?

Next point You tried to degrade them, "running round like a headless chicken." I think you owe me an apology.

Yes I am sorry I didn t see the Hare.

Next point, Could you name and show us your dogs? Name and email if you are a good person and have nothing to hide then don't hide .

The letters page is as it is and as long as it is a from non disclosed contributors I will keep the closed option.

Next point , Incidentally two of these dog's noses saved a 45 min old baby's life by working the rough woodland

Very commendable that this young life was saved and the Baby, I m sure will be eternally grateful.

Last point(Thank God) looking forward to hearing from you and your explanations of the editors questions.

I don t feel any need to answer the editors questions, he s probably right in his observations.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Firstly, I would like to apologise to anyone who I caused offence to, all I did was try and defend the dogs I have owned and loved for 42 years.

You know the problem the editor pointed out, the pitter patter movement, can you enlighten us on that?
I try to defend the breed you attack it, try to belittle my knowledge. I told you hares squat.

You say the dog won't go in the long grass that it is after some sort of scent, what's that all about? If it was in there the dog would be in there. look at the other video long grass different scent. Try and understand it, but as you say you don't understand the dog in a natural environment, so its not worth explaining it to you.

As to going in rough cover watch the other video. As for the worth of the noses, by the way there's a 11 year old out with us here Lescariot Magical Milly, a true kerry. For you to cast a doubt on the ability to scent is a joke. You tried to degrade them, "running round like a headless chicken."

I think you owe me an apology. Could you name and show us your dogs? Name and email if you are a good person and have nothing to hide then don't hide.

Incidentally two of these dog's noses saved a 45 min old baby's life by working the rough woodland.

looking forward to hearing from you and your explanations of the editors questions.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: To the Editor who I don't think will print this.

I think that Tony Manning write all these letters , we are not fooled.

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[What makes you think that I write all of the comments that are published here? I didn't write yours, so there's one gone out of the equation. My letters and comments are on this site, but they are only on the Front Page and in the Kerry Blue Breed Notes You Gobshite.]

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Editor, in reply to the writer on Friday, July 22, 2011 at 13:19:00

I would assume that the writer of those comments is the person who uses the loophole to dock his dogs.

If he thinks that it is ethical to use this bending of the rules, would he tell the rest of us who also dislike our breed undocked how to do it? Then we can all be on the same platform.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Tony, First of all I do not engage in any form of animal abuse, either Bushing ,Baiting or Killing. I suppose that you feel that you are doing no harm by flushing Hares.

In saying that I do believe that a Kerry should behave in a confident way. Head held high, Alert expression, Tail erect and also move with Purpose and Coordination.

Covering ground in no way covers the way the Kerry is moving in the video. Its more like a bouncing gallop. The dog is following what it believes to be some sort of scent and only moves within the low grassed areas at no point does it venture beyond into the longer rough. The Hare that it is looking for might be in there somewhere ?

You mention that your dog is undocked. Realistically it is not going to suffer any damage in the short grass. Perhaps in the rough areas damage might occur but also damage might occur to other parts of its body. I am happy enough to have an undocked dog but cosmetically I would prefer a shorter tail.

I would defend the right for someone to dock and when loopholes are there, who can blame someone for using them.

Also Tony your abusive posting only demeans you, not me

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear letters, I would like to comment on what the writer T. Muat July 20, 2011 at 17:24:10 said. In his comments he says, "Is it only working show dogs that need to be docked now?."

I see Kerry Blue Terriers in the show ring that are clearly docked. As I understand it there is a loophole to get around the docking ban if you have land and your dogs are working Terriers. Just what work would these breeders who dock be using their dogs for?

All of the rest of us have to comply with the ban, why are these breeders getting away with it?

A classic example of this are the Torum dogs. To my knowledge this owner doesn't have any land to work dogs, he lives in the arse end of Liverpool next to a youth hostel, yet his dogs are all docked. would he even know how to work a dog?

So the question T Muat asked "Is it only working show dogs that need to be docked now?." is a very good one.

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(email:) on Thursday, July 21, 2011 at 16:56:02
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Editor, I would like to reply to the poster of: Sunday, July 17, 2011 at 15:14:14.

You say "Come on be fair" are you expecting exhibitors to take that remark seriously? Are the people who hire Mr Corish buying wins?

I would like someone to tell me why perfectly competent handlers who are excellent at presentation would employ an extremely expensive handler?

Or is it a case of big wins equals massive money offered from abroad?

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comments: Dear Editor, I have recently read in Dog World that there is to be an 'Audience With
Di Johnson' Hosted by Andrew Brace, costing £12.50.

Di Johnson along with her husband Carl was banned by the Kennel Club for cheating, by lying on their KC questionnaires about their judging CV.

Many honest aspiring judges were astounded at the time by the rapid rise up the judging ladder by those two cheats and they were quite correctly banned by the KC.

I wouldn't give a shilling to listen to self promotion by a pompous woman.

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Tony Muat (montealtos@hotmail.co.uk) on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 at 17:24:10
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Response to the reply to my letter in kerry blue breed notes.
Dear writer you seem to have concern on a lot of issues, except you don't point out that the dog on the video is undocked working a natural environment.

Or is it only working show dogs that need to be docked now?. Anyway are you MAD, 1920?

Watch the video again ,this dog is covering ground, if you know what your on about you should know the dog was trying to lift a Hare not a hand held rabbit , a hare will squat it does not go to ground, different scent, clever dog? When a dog has it's head well up it is looking for its quarry the same as gaze hounds pushing around trying to lift their quarry.

2011 v 1920 The 1920 video is a Plastic environment, hand held rabbit, plywood badger, putting a badger in a man made stop, do we still keep badgers in underground kennels? Those men and yourself - if you do the same - are putting all the animals through torture and that is all they are doing, it is not a Natural Environment, it's man made, making all the animals suffer dog, badger and rabbit frustrated - pure cruelty. What pet shop do you buy your rabbits from?

My animal is not bred to catch the quarry it is pushing, to lift the hare from a Natural Environment. Natural instinct, when a dog has been taken out from a young age it is not taught to do it. It is Natural, not plastic 1920s.

By the way how old are you, which one are you in the 1920 video? Are you the one holding the rabbit?
Go on you rotten little unter.

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Breed Notes 17/07/2011 (email:) on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 at 15:22:52
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: I have just read "Kerry Blue Breed Notes" The writer goes on about incorrect movement in the breed and the lack of "Working Knowledge" and fitness of Kerry Blue Exhibitors.

May concern is the video clip that seems to be linked to the notes. The video shows a Kerry Blue running about like a "Headless Chicken" or a dog that is about to "Have a Dump". Is the video meant to depict a Kerry at Work ?

My observations on the dog in the video are as follows. The dog is hop skipping and jumping all over the place furthermore the dog is of very dubious temperament, continualy throught the clip the dog's tail is not carried correctly. To me an obvious sign of soft temperament. I would say that the dog in the video would have difficult showing it's attributes as a show dog.

I have seen a news reel taken from the 1920's "Rabits and Badgers" in it you can see a kerry following the scent of a rabit, look at that dogs demeanor and compare it with the one in the breed note video. Also watch the two dogs that go to Ground. One up for the job and the other shying away from the hole.

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To Steve Dean (email:) on Monday, July 18, 2011 at 18:43:16
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comments: Dear letters,
there is a video on the Dog world site with various exhibitors who are asked; If you could ask the new Charman of the KC what would you like him to change, what would it be?

I wish they would have asked me. My question would be, Why don't you do away with the practice of allowing professional handlers to judge? Because Mr Dean, the smell of the dreck that comes from this is putrid.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: What are we saying here, a handler who has no preparation to do on a dog, doesn't see it from one show to the next, then takes it off its owner (who is excellent at presentation and a competent handler) walks into the ring, Gets the CC, Best of Breed, a group win and then Best in Show, and he then gets in excess of £500.00 from the owner plus expenses even though he hasn't brought the dog to the show and he keeps any dog food vouchers to boot? It stinks!

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comments: Dear Editor, Is the writer - of breed kerry blue - suggesting that handler Corish is being practically nodded through when he exhibits?

Come on get real. If he is we are talking about wrongdoing on an industrial scale here; surely not?

I will admit that he is not a handler in the conventional sense and I know that he doesn't appear to have any involvement other than exhibiting the dog, but come on be fair.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: I also think that there was a red herring planted. Surely the obvious questions that need to be asked are these: Why are Professional Handlers allowed by the KC to Judge? It is open to corruption and in my veiw it is already steeped in it.

The new Chairman of the KC should look at this practice because it is just not on.

We now have Geoff Corish in our breed handling on a regular basis. We have had two owners who have used this handler and they have had amazing success when Geoff Corish has handled their dogs. Both owners prepare the dogs for Mr Corish, all that he does is take them into the ring.

Considering that both of these owners have excellent presentation skills and are extremely good handlers themselves. So the question that begs is, why do they need to employ the most expensive handler in dogs just to trot the dogs around the ring?

Is it because Mr Corish wines and dines with all of the group and best in show judges when he is judging?

It stinks to high heaven. So come on new Chairman Dean, clean this stinking mess up for the sake of honest exhibitors, without them there will be no dog shows.

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breed: Fox (wire)
comments: Dear Letters, this spat between the recent contributors looks like a red herring to me.

The real issue here is twofold which was asked in the lead article on the home page. Should professional handlers be allowed to judge and does Geoff Corish get looked on favorably in and out of the ring.

For my money he does. It is like the story of the Emperor with no clothes on, everyone can see he's naked but all are afraid to speak out.

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breed: Fox (smooth)
comments: I have nothing to apologise for, you have been afforded an opportunity to reveal your name and put your case forward but refuse, this leads me to believe that you have something to hide, butenough of your red flag waving, I will not respond anymore to someone who hides behind anonymity.

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Robins not Good (email:robin.loxely@gmail.com) on Friday, July 15, 2011 at 20:44:06
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breed: Fox (smooth)
comments: Sir, I know that handlers work within the rules. But what did the writer mean when he said that handlers "do even worse things" his words not mine.

Would he like to apologise for saying that, or has he forgot that he wrote it?

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Keith Jones (keithjonesdarlaur@msn.com) on Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 20:58:44
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breed: Fox (smooth)
comments: Who said anything about discussing it in private, you can have an open forum if you want
(I take it that you would not want that seeing that you won't put your name to your e mails).

I take it from your e mail (you handle them occasionally) maybe you are a professional handler.

You suggest that the professional handler does things illegally (your words not mine) all the handlers who I know work within the rules set by the K.C.

if you were to ask is some of this work carried out is unethical I would have to say yes, so unless the K.C. changes the rules about professional handlers judging it will remain.

You seem to think that I have a hatred of handlers I do not, I have what I think is a good relationship with them,and all of them I know would discuss this issue with me head on not hide behind a nom de plume.

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Robin's Good (email:robin.loxely@gmail.com) on Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 19:33:55
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breed: Fox (smooth)
comments: Sir, the writer who said that some handlers 'do even worse things' doesn't seem to want to reveal what he apparently knows of wrong doing by the Pro Handling fraternity.

He made the the assertion of wrong doing, yet when challenged he wants to discuss it in private.

I say again if he knows of such goings on he should say what it is or keep his trap shut.

No I'm not a breeder of smooths but have handled them occasionally.

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Keith Jones (keithjonesdarlaur@msn.com) on Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 16:05:50
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breed: Fox (smooth)
comments: Robin Hood why not your real name, what are you hiding? Please feel free to approach me at any show you see me to debate the issue, should not be hard seeing that your breed is S.F.T.

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Robin Hood (email:robin.loxely@gmail.com) on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 at 21:39:47
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breed: Fox (smooth)
comments: Sir, it is interesting that the writer who suggested that some handlers 'do even worse things' other than handling, hasn't come back here to elaborate on his statement.

If he is pointing the finger at handlers doing something illegal, he should say what it is, name the handlers, or keep his trap shut.

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comments: Sir, reading the comments re pro handlers judging I must say that surely there is an underlying temptation for those who judge to look after their fellow professionals.

Handlers get paid to prepare a dog and exhibit under a judge. If they win say a cc and best of breed and then perhaps a group win, their fees increase dramatically.

You scratch my back I'll scratch yours? Handlers should not judge and handle.

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(email:) on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 at 17:02:30
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breed: West Highland White
comments: Dear Editor,

I read Keith Jones' letter with interest. He asks the question "why is it that only ever G. Corish is mentioned, why not other professional terrier handlers who do the same thing and sometimes worse."

As far as I'm aware it was this man who set the precedent for Handlers to judge. Also I don't know of any other handlers who judge Best In Show at General Championship shows on a regular basis, do you?
But I am sure that they will soon follow their 'Leader'.

What does the writer of that letter mean when he says "And sometimes worse"?

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breed: Fox (smooth)
comments: To give a balanced account to the professional handler judging debate why is it that only ever G. Corish is mentioned, why not other professional terrier handlers who do the same thing and sometimes worse.

The ball is in the exhibitors court if he is judging and you think that this is unfair don't enter.

I am not in favour of professional handlers judging but until the K.C. do something about it I am afraid we are stuck with it.I have shown under G. Corish (in the group stage) and I have always found him fair.

I have no objection if you would like to print my name. Great site very informative.

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another breed (email: not terriers) on Saturday, July 09, 2011 at 16:12:28
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comments: Letters: Editor, I think that the people who are having a go at Geoff Corish are just jealous of him.

I exhibit in another breed group but I use this site because it is most informative in certain areas and easy to navigate.

Geoff Corish may be the most expensive handler around but he does get the results.

A lot of dogs would never have won a cc never mind a group if Geoff hadn't handled them.

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comments: I would just like to say that pro handlers judging is a disgrace and open to corruption.

Handlers are paid on results and the bigger the result the greater the payment, so they all look after one another.

Come on Squeaky Clean Professor Steve Dean, clean up this stinking fish smell that is gaining momentum and pungency as more and more handlers join the judging circuit. Or is it that the fish is rotting from the head down?

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Not Naive (email:none) on Friday, July 08, 2011 at 13:24:43
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breed: West Highland White
comments: Dear Editor, Does the writer of the letter suggesting that Geoff Corish is "The best out there" need a brain transplant?

Geoff Corish is an extremely highly paid operator who hardly ever prepares any of the dogs that he takes into the ring. Why is he so expensive when the owners prepare their own dogs?

Oh for a Pedigree Dogs Handlers Exposed/Jemima Harrison style investigation into this practice of handlers judging and exhibiting.

The majority of the terrier group judges are one big clique all dancing to the Corish melody.

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comments: Geoff Corrish is the best terrier handler out there.

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good riddance (email:) on Monday, May 30, 2011 at 10:33:46
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breed: Border
comments: Sir, I welcome the news that Ronnie Irving is to step down as Chairman of The Kennel Club.

I wonder what brought about this decision from him; is he jumping before he is pushed? It is a strange decision considering that he fought tooth and nail - along with his 'KC Sycophants' - against the proposal last year from Robin Searle that a fixed term for the Chairmanship should operate in the Kennel Club.

Of course he will claim - is claiming - in his resignation letter that the Kennel Club policy on Health and Welfare has never been stronger.
But, wasn't this brought about by the fallout from the BBC Documentary 'Pedigree Dogs Exposed'; does he really want us to think that Health and Welfare improvements were brought about as a consequence of his leadership?

His crass arrogant remarks when questioned about in-breeding should have brought about his resignation immediately after the BBC documentary.
At that time the Kennel Club were not leading by example, they were - after the documentary - frantically trying to put out damage limitation propaganda and being dragged along by the 'Tsunami' of outraged public opinion.

Good riddance to an arrogant chairman of The Kennel Club.

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comments: Dear Editor, here is some information that may be of use to your writers who have not had a Critique published. It is taken from the Kennel Club's website. Questions and Answers: ( Q: A: )

Judges and Judging General Enquiries

Q. What is a critique and why does a judge need to supply a critique?

A. A critique is a written report completed by the judge, where he/she will outline the relative virtues and weaknesses of the dogs they have judged at a show, and explaining why they have chosen one dog above another. Exhibitors really want to see them as they want to know what a judge thought about their dog.
They are sent to the 2 dog papers; Dog World and Our Dogs, and are printed along with the results.
The KC recognised that some judges weren't supplying critiques to the dog press and brought in a regulation in July 2004, which states that judges must submit critiques for the first two placings in each class at Championship shows and Open Breed Shows.

Q. I haven't seen a copy of the critique for a show I entered - what should I do?

A. Once the exhibitor has written to the Kennel Club, we will write to the judge and ask them for a copy of the critique. Once we have received it, we shall send a copy onto the exhibitor. If a judge isn't able to send a critique we will warn them that they have to keep critiques in future. If they fail to supply critiques after being warned the matter is referred to the SEC and they may be fined.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Sir,
I sometimes wonder if judges don't send a critique in because they can't justify their placings.....??

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Enlightened (email:) on Thursday, April 14, 2011 at 19:09:15
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breed: Soft Coated Wheaten
comments: Dear Letters Editor, I must say that your page for exposing Judges who do not send in a Critique is an eye opener.

I had been waiting for a critique for Wheatens at South Wales 10 judged by Tom Johnston and thought that I must have missed it in the dog press. It appears that this judge never sends in a Critique!

I think that he should be severely reprimanded by the KC or suspended.

It costs a considerable amount of money to enter and travel to a show these days and Judges should fulfil their contracts and not cheat exhibitors by not submitting a Critique. I am very angry.

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Hanged, drawn and quartered (email:) on Thursday, April 14, 2011 at 14:09:31
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Editor,

I have read with interest previous letters regarding Judges who did not have their Show Reports published in one of the UK Canine publications.

Some of the letter writers believe this to be in contravention of Kennel Club rulings.

The fact is that the wording actually reads as follows All Judges at Championship Shows and Open Breed Club Shows must produce a written critique for the first two placings in each class, and will dispatch these to at least one of the weekly United Kingdom Canine journals. Source KC Website.

No rules are breached if a judge Fails to have their report published In the interests of fairness and for an unbiased piece of journalism, I believe that you have a duty as an editor or journalist to extensively research your work.

Look for published reports (this seems to be done)
Check with Canine press for unpublished reports(?)
Check with Judges who have been named in the reports (?)
Check with KC (?)

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[ Regarding extensive research: I have no intention of contacting the Canine Press for unpublished reports; the onus is not on me as Editor of Terrier World to do so. Further, I will not be contacting lazy judges who do not fulfill their contracts. (as is required by the Kennel Club) And your last point 'Check with the KC' what for?
I assume that you are one of the 'Unpublished Judges'. The last show of the season (Gen Ch Show) was LKA and in your breed you listed Kerry Blue. LKA was the second week in December 2010 and the replacement Judge was Ron Ramsay for Geoff Corish who could not officiate. Mr Ramsay has not had a Critique published for the appointment that he agreed to take on. This show incidentally is not the first one that has gone unpublished for him. Since LKA 10 it is five months past; more than enough time (for Mr Ron Ramsay) to 'Critique' fifteen dogs and bitches in total don't you think?
As for the Kennel Club Regulation Booklet; what part of 'Regulation' do you not understand? Ed.]

REGULATION F1 22-D

d. All Judges at Championship Shows and Open Breed Club Shows must
produce a written critique for the first two placings in each class, and
will dispatch these to at least one of the weekly United Kingdom Canine
journals.
e. When requested to do so, judges must submit a completed breed health
monitoring report form and a copy of their critique to the Kennel Club
within 21 days of the close of the show.
f. All judging contracts are subject to cancellation at the discretion of
the Kennel Club in the event of the judge being subject to relevant
disciplinary action.
g. In the event of a Judge or Society being in breach of any of the terms
of a judging contract, the General Committee may impose a fine. The
Judge or Society may be required by the General Committee to give
reasons for such breach, and in the event of the explanation not being
considered satisfactory, the General Committee may impose a fine.

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comments: Dear Letters, the article about 'Professional Dog Walkers' in the 'Read the latest items' column on the front page could not be any better placed. Because, it's right in line with the most expensive Professional Dog Walker of all time.

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To Editor (email:) on Sunday, April 10, 2011 at 13:54:59
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comments: Editor,

I think that you've overstepped the mark once too often by printing the judge's names. You are becoming more viscous in your comments and really don't deserve a place in dogs along with your disgusting website.

I for one will not read it again!! This won't be printed!!

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[Why wouldn't your comments be published? Actually, I appreciate your observations; I was worrying that I may be losing my touch. Ed.]

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Unfair Advantage (email:) on Friday, April 08, 2011 at 22:04:20
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comments: Dear Letters,

Sir, I read your article "legally-docked dog owners are continuing with their protest" in the 'Read the latest items' column on the front and it gave me food for thought.

It is clear that some breeders are ignoring the docking ban and have found a way - or loophole around it - and they are exploiting it. This is unfair on the rest of us who conform to the ban.

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Judges (email:none) on Friday, April 08, 2011 at 16:29:04
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comments: To Terrier World.

Dear Sir, I think that your page for reports that are not printed is a bit unfair. Surely this will be a black mark against those particular judges?

They should be approached and given a chance to submit the reports. Concerned.

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Critique (email:) on Thursday, April 07, 2011 at 12:50:51
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comments: Dear Editor,

I have browsed your 'Letters' section occasionally and found it most entertaining.

Reading the Data that has recently been printed about Judges who do not bother sending in critiques amazed me.

In the days when there was only the dog press, if a Judge didn't write a critique we forgot about it in the end.

Your expose of those Judges is a very good idea. Would it be possible to have a permanent section for future reference? This would then I'm sure, assist societies in their invitations to Judges and also encourage Judges to fulfill their judging contracts that are required by the KC.

Thank you for your very good informative web site.

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Judges Reports (email:) on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 at 12:10:13
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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Terrier World, here are the results of my research for Judges who failed to have their reports published in the Dog Press as is required by the Kennel Club

RESEARCH FOR JUDGING REPORTS UNPUBLISHED ALL TERRIER BREEDS 2010
(Correct at time of publication Ed.)

AIREDALE:
BLACKPOOL 10: MRS ELAIN BALDWIN

AUSTRALIAN:
SKC MAY 10: FRANK KANE
BLACKPOOL 10: JEFF LUSCOTT

BORDER:
PAIGNTON 10: MRS C CLUMBARD

BULL ENGLISH:
SOUTH WALES 10: MR TOM JOHNSTON

MINI BULL:
LEEDS 10: MR D GILMORE
BOURNEMOUTH 10: MRS A YOUNG
DARLINGTON 10: MRS MAUREEN BELL
SOUTH WALES 10: MR TOM JOHNSTON

CAIRN:
BLACKPOOL 10: PETER CHAPPELL

CESKEY:
PAIGNTON 10: TOM JOHNSTON

DANDIE DINMONT:
SCOTTISH BREEDS 10: MR T McKENZIE
DRIFFIELD 10: Ms LIZ WALKLEY

FOX SMOOTH:
NATIONAL TERRIER 10: NEIL ADAMS

FOX WIRE:
SKC MAY 10: MRS A MAUGHAN
THREE COUNTIES 10: MISS H FRIZELL
BLACKPOOL 10: MR A WESTWOOD
EAST OF ENGLAND 10: DR A J PERTUIT JR

GLEN OF IMAAL:
EAST OF ENGLAND 10: MRS M MACDONALD CROSS

IRISH:
SKC MAY 10: MR J STEWART

KERRY BLUE:
MANCHESTER 10: MRS JULIE MOSS
PAIGNTON 10: MR TOM JOHNSTON
CITY OF BIRMINGHAM 10: MR SEAN DELMAR
RICHMOND 10: Ms EMILY BRADLEY
LKA 10: MR RON RAMSAY

LAKELAND:
BORDER UNION 10: MRS NICKY PATTERSON
CITY OF BIRMINGHAM 10: MRS CATHY DELMAR
MIDLAND COUNTIES 10: Ms BETH SWEIGART

MANCHESTER TERRIER:
THREE COUNTIES 10: MR BEN RENOLDS-FROST
MIDLAND COUNTIES 10: Ms MARGARET CLOWES

NORFOLK:
BLACKPOOL 10: MR TAN NAGRECHA
LEEDS: MRS MARION SARGENT
BOURNEMOUTH 10: MR JEFF LUSCOTT

NORWICH:
WELKS 10: MRS MARION SARGENT
CITY OF BIRMINGHAM 10: MR DAN ERICSSON
DARLINGTON 10: MR TOM JOHNSTON

PARSON RUSSELL:
CITY OF BIRMINGHAM 10: MRS CATHY DELMAR

SCOTTISH:
BOURNEMOUTH 10: MR TOM JOHNSTON

SKYE:
BLACKPOOL 10: MR ABE HARKNESS
DRIFFIELD 10: Ms CORALYNNE SMITH

SOFT COATED WHEATEN:
BATH 10: MR PAUL WILKINSON
SOUTH WALES 10: MR TOM JOHNSTON

STAFFORDSHIRE BULL:
BORDER UNION 10: MRS A DICK

WELSH:
LEEDS 10: MR TOM JOHNSTON

WEST HIGHLAND WHITE:
BLACKPOOL 10: MR JEFF LUSCOTT
WINDSOR 10: MR TOM JOHNSTON

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breed: Soft Coated Wheaten
comments: Dear Editor,

I have just read the letter "Judges Reports" April 6.
If you get the research from the writer would it be possible to put it into Terrier World?

Thanks.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear Terrier World,

To say that I was disappointed at LKA 2010 would be putting it mildly.

We arrived on the day and were told that the Judge Geoff Corish had taken ill and there would be a substitute judge who turned out to be Ron Ramsay.

Personally, I would not have entered under this Judge, but as we had gone to considerable expense, we decided to exhibit as we were there. This was not a problem and our award is irrelevant.

My anger is that this judge has not taken the time (or it hasn't yet been published) to write up a report on the
dogs.

Judges must know that it is a requirement by the Kennel Club, that when you accept a judging appointment you must submit a Judge's Report to either of the two main dog publications; Dog World or Our Dogs.
Kennel Club Regulation: F(1) 22-D

I have done some research on this matter for 2010 and I am amazed at the amount of judges that do not send in reports. Judges Reports are a directive and a rule (regulation Ed) from the KC that when you undertake a contract to judge you must provide a Report.

I can if you wish forward my research results - all 26 Terrier Breeds - for you to put on your site. I think that exhibitors should know who they are and also the Kennel Club should be made aware and contact these Judges as to why they have not complied with their rules (regulations Ed) when they entered into a judging contract.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Hello There Tony,

I have been reading with interest your page on the Terrier World Website on the Kerry Blue breed notes, as someone who is interested in helping to save this vulnerable breed I am aghast at what I have found out from doing a bit of research.

I have found that what you have said on this page to be true, most of the breeders that I have sent enquiries to have endorsed puppies, which is no good to me as I would like my bitch to have a least one litter of puppies, to help keep the breed going.

Now I am not one of those unscrupulous people who would just breed for money and there are plenty out there, I am an honest descent person trying to help out this breed and I would do all my homework to find the right stud dog to breed from without any inbreeding, as I hope that most people out there do.

Now if like me most people do their research they will hopefully be able to weed out these unreputable nasty breeders.

I also fancied showing but have been put off that idea as I get the feeling it s not about the puppy but more about who you know!


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breed: Border
comments: Dear Terrier World, I must congratulate your staff for producing the most comprehensive web site for Terriers that I have come across.

The navigation is easy and I think that everything that you would want to know about Terriers - and more - is there.

It is wonderful to see the results and the judges reports for each breed on one page. It has to now be my first port of call, my number one site.

Congratulations once again to all of the Terrier World Staff.

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comments: Thanks very much for the info ,regarding bloodlines . Will do my research now and look into pedigree's

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breed: Welsh
comments: To the poster from on Friday, March 04, 2011 at 19:11:17 who wants to know what the bloodlines are for the Welsh Terriers that is causing so much debate?

Visit the Kebulak website, use your intelligence and work it out.

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comments: Dear Letters, In answer to the new? Poster Count Duckula.

You say that: "One of two things might happen. The teeth seperate , quarry escapes. Teeth seperate and jaw gets ripped out."

'Might' isn't 100 percent is it, and how would you know that this 'might' happen? What experience have you got working dogs with a reverse 'Scissor Bite' as is described in your link?: www.dentalvet.com/patients/orthodontics/pet_orthodontics.htm

I had one that was undershot. I worked it when it wasn't so frowned upon to do so, because it wouldn't have won in the ring. It never let me down, never lost a quarry and its jaw remained with it until it died, - of natural causes.

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comments: To Welsh. That is the problem with the termonology used by Breeders and Exhibitors.

Yes overshot bite is wrong for a terrier. Most desired is a normal scissors bite.

A reverse scissors bite no mater what the degree may be accepatable in other breeds is not so in terriers (I am open to correction on this) I will post a link for you all to read at your own leisure, this will explaine bites better than I can.

The reason that any form of underbite is wrong for me is this. One of the things a Kerry Blue does(sorry used to do) is pull its quary from the ground. Now a correct bite the forward teeth are attached to the skull of the dog. Pull on these and the whole dog stays put or moves forward.

Now lets say the lower teeth are forward to any degree of the upper teeth. Pull on these and what happens.The lower jaw is more moveable and weaker and has the potential to move forward.

One of two things might happen. The teeth seperate , quarry escapes. Teeth seperate and jaw gets ripped out.

Here is link to experts view on dentition from a health point: www.dentalvet.com/patients/orthodontics/pet_orthodontics.htm

And as to me being Ron Ramsey. No hes a much better singer.

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comments: Dear Letters, in answer to the person who signed themselves Count Dracula, yes I am serious about an undershot mouth being the reverse of the Scissor Bite.

Where the bottom teeth fit tightly and in front of the top teeth, this is a reverse bite. And who are we to say that this is not as affective as a scissor bite when holding quarry?

Of course there will be some cases where lower jaw protrudes further. The word undershot is a general term for all bites that are forward of the top teeth.

An overshot mouth can never be excused because there is a gap between the teeth.

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comments: Sir, after reading the letter from the person who signed in as "Count Dracula" it immediately jumped out at me who this is.

Only one person in our breed Kerry Blue Terriers has such a high opinion of himself to reply to three contributors at once. Yes, it is the man who talks down and at you rather than to you. The self appointed expert who's lines are now in reverse gear.

I would like to ask him to explain how he is getting away with docking his dogs when the rest of us have to conform to the docking ban. The Kennel Club should be asked to investigate him and let us all know why he is allowed to get away with it.

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comments: (Undershot is the reverse of what is commonly accepted as a Scissor Bite)Are you serious? And you say you are a judge. Undershot is not just a reverse scissor bite just the same as overshot is not just a scissor bite.

The only bites allowed in my breed are Scissor and Level. And as Ms Davani's Vet describing the mouth fault in the puppy as "Cosmetic" faulty bites are not just cosmetic they can cause the dog pain throughout its life.

And just to mention the breed notes in dog world. A good journalist would check their sources and also allow the accused to put their story across. Did not seem to happen in this case and just comes across as a poisin pen.

Editor you where quite right in commenting on the article in DW but once again you debased your article with a sideways snipe at Geoff Corish.

The only ones responisable for the DW article are the breed note writer and their editor. Why did you feel the need to somehow aportion blame to someone not involved?

Its like a dog that attacks a target , cant reach and then bites something else in the process.

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breed: Welsh
comments: To Terrier World Letters:

Dear Editor, I have been reading the letters and following the breed notes looking for information regarding Ms Davani's letter to the press.

I find it astonishing that a breed correspondent for another breed should take it upon herself to write about our breed Welsh Terriers.

This writer most certainly has an axe to grind with Ms Davani and is using our breed for what can only be
described as a spiteful attack.

Both of our Correspondents, Julien Barney and Alex Witmund have not written a word about this and quite rightly so in my opinion.

One can only conclude that the nickname Pernicious P-- is well and truly justified.

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breed: Welsh
comments: Dear Letters, I would like to reply to the writer from Friday, March 04, 2011 at 18:55:41

Is this thick as two short planks writer seriously suggesting that every breeder should keep all that they breed? Name me one Kennel that has one breed or multiple that does this.

Furthermore, the writer suggests that the puppy should have been given away free? Why should it be? The RSPCA charge in the region of £200.00 for pedigree dogs and they could be geriatrics!

I have judged dogs that have been presented to me on occasions and I have come across both undershot and overshot bites; the latter being a much more serious fault in a Terrier (Undershot is the reverse of what is commonly accepted as a Scissor Bite)

There is a considerable amount of time and money spent when you embark into the world of breeding dogs and unless a dog is so seriously deformed that it will affect its quality of life, a cosmetic fault - in the eyes of the 'Show World' - it should be allowed to live.

The writer from Friday, March 04, 2011 at 18:55:41 needs a large injection of intelligence.

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comments: PLEASE enlighten us which bloodlines they are. Also the well known kennel? Thankyou this will help people avoid kennel's like this.

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comments: I think buyer's should be very careful, were they buy from.Mrs Davani breed's several terrier breed's,why would you breed that amount anyway unless for gain's �����. Couldn't possible keep them all could you.

Also referring to dog world/our dog breed note's i think you should have given the dog away not sell it .There again ������ come's into it .

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breed: Welsh
comments: Dear Terrier world, I followed the link from your "read more" 'Kerry Blue Breeder Hits Back at Vindictive Slur By Dog World Writer' on the front page.

I must say that the Picture that was painted by Dog World is somewhat different to the breeder's version of events although they are similar.

I would agree with the statement that the Dog World's version is vindictive and that the breeder has found it necessary to write not only here but in Dog World and Our Dogs to defend herself and her reputation as a breeder. Although the writer for Dog World represents Kerry Blue Terriers, the related notes were about
Welsh Terriers.

Has this got anything to do with the fact that Davani and Munro were once in partnership and they acrimoniously fell out?

We in Welsh Terriers all know what Bloodlines Ms Davani has and what stud dog she used. These bloodlines are from an extremely well known kennel. We must all thank the Dog World writer for enlightening us to the fact that these lines are likely to produce undershot jaws. I now wouldn't touch those lines with a barge pole.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: If mrs munro write's these article's about people , then she should be brave enough to name the people. Especially if she is a geninue dog lover /BREEDER ,to help promote the breed.

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comments: I have just read your latest Kerry Blue "Breed Notes" It seems to me that most of the offerings are in fact Breed notes about breed notes a few obituaries ,some self advertisements from exhibitors and a few personal rants against other exhibitors or breeders.

The Dog world breed notes have a comments section where you can reply to the breed notes. A direct comment there might be more usefull.I know the common concensus is for recycling but It would be more interesting if you could source some material by yourself.

In my opinion your rants demonise an otherwise usefull website.

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[You introduce yourself as "No Need For Intros". If there is no need you must think that we know who you are.
Me - Tony Manning - the writer of the Kerry Breed Notes in Terrier World - have no idea who you are. If you feel so strongly about the content in my Kerry Notes why don't you identify yourself? I would be more than happy to debate with you; in fact I will give you a dedicated page do do so. However, I would be very surprised if you do.]

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comments: To Letters:

Dear Editor,
reading the letters in Terrierworld has given me an interest in breeds other than my own.

Kerry Blues seem to crop up a lot and I look forward to new additions in their breed notes. Consequently, this has also brought about my interest in reading DW Kerry breed notes.

The observations of the contributor for TW are quite astute regarding DW Kerry notes. Which has made me much more aware of where the DW writer is coming from when there are notes published.

Reading the DW notes this week, 25/2/11 one can only ask, is the writer worried that exhibitors will question the Judge if she wins at the next show which can only be Crufts, or is she worried that the Judge may overlook her exhibit because he/she may not examine the dogs expertly enough?

It was a long preamble in the notes to get to the her point, 'the bottom line'.

Also, if as she states that most would not know who Stafford Somerfield was, why quote him? I remember Stafford Somerfield but I don't ever recall him judging dogs.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: To TerrierWorld

Dear letters, I often read the letters on your site and find them interesting. This has taken me to the kerry blue breed notes being led there with some of the comments in the letters.

After reading the most recent kerry notes, I would agree wholeheartedly with the Terrier World writer.

It would seem to me that the breed note contributor from Dog World is not writing about the kerry blue, but about a personal dislike or a vendetta against a particular breeder.

Power of the pen is a privilege and should not be abused.

Dog World should review what their kerry representative is putting in the kerry notes and act accordingly.

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comments: Dear Sir,

Reading that the Kennel Club now have a data base to record all proof of posting information supplied to it by championship shows which have had to accept entries on the day.

As a result of information extracted from that database, 34 exhibitors were contacted during 2010 to be advised that the only proof of entry which will be accepted from them in the future, will be Registered Post documentation, the show society s confirmation of receipt or an online receipt.

Failure to provide such proof by these exhibitors will result in the disqualification of awards and possible imposition of a fine, under Regulation F(1)9.e.

What next, Stocks at the Kennel Club for those stepping out of line and then pelted by Kennel club officials with rotten vegetables?

We need a Revolution in dogs and an alternative club to exhibit and pursue our hobby!

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breed: Kerry Blue

comments: Professional handlers or dog walker's SHOULD not be aloud to judge at what ever level.
Especially when they show a dog, get paid for it they go and judge .

The KC need to get there act together they get enough money out of us dog lover's

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comments: Dear Editor,

I really enjoy your Website as it is informative and up to date with results and Judge's reports.

I hadn't realised that there had been an addition to the site of shedules and forms for all of the general champ shows. Having easy access to all of the forthcoming shows on one page is really good.

As you know, Geoff Corish was to have judged Westies at LKA but was taken ill.

I browsed through the schedules for 2011 and I am amazed that not only was Geoff Corish supposed to judge three breeds at LKA, he is to judge three at Crufts and two at Birmingham National and I would be interested to see what else he is due to judge when the rest of the seasons schedules are available.

There has to be a conflict of interest here surely? How can the Kennel Club allow this to happen when he is a Professional Handler?

The obvious question is, does he have some sort of hold on the Chairman of the KC, Ronnie Irving? Bearing also in mind that there are rumours that he is to judge Best In Show at Crufts 2013.

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LKA (email:) on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 02:24:27

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comments: Dear Letters,

reading the postings about LKA and the substitute judges, I visited the the Kerry Blue breed notes to see what all of the fuss is about.

Westies and Kerrys were to be judged by Geoff Corish. Unfortunately he was taken ill.
LKA contacted Maurice Marshall who judged Westies, our breed.

I find it very hard to believe that LKA would have waited for Kerry exhibitors to arrive in the hope that there would be one amongst them who would stand in and judge in place of Mr Corish.

There was only a handful of Kerry Blues for goodness sake and I think that someone is being economical with the truth. Had the replacement judge been asked the day previous as was Mr Marshall?

I think that the Kerry Blue exhibitors should rightly be outraged and they should demand their fees and expenses back. At the very least the Secretary of LKA should be asked just who was sought as a replacement for Mr Corish and when.

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comments: Dear Editor,

I have just read the Kerry Blue Terrier breed notes and quite frankly I am disgusted. The substitute judge Mr Ramsey should be applauded for standing in at the last minute.

I think that the article in the breed notes about the judge is a disgraceful piece of journalism.

I doubt very much that you will print this. Your website is nothing short of gutter press.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: Dear letters, how ironic that the plan to give the dog from the North his first big win lay in tatters after the judge pulled out.

His breeder didn't go presumably this would have made his win seem more honest and believable had the original judge officiated .

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comments: Start a PETITION to get the chairman out if you all feel that strongly about it.

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comments: Dear Editor,

I am amazed at some of the Statements that are uttered by the Chairman of The Kennel Club.

His idiotic notion that Dog Shows may be better off without Group and Best In Show competitions are quite ridiculous. If we do away with competition what is the point in dog shows at all?

Let the Kennel Club and its buffoon Chairman be the first to do this. Crufts Dog show would collapse and there would be no revenue from television.

Or is he suggesting that all of the other dog society's abandon Group and BIS and only the Kennel Club be allowed to hold these competitions?

Get real Mr Irving, you are not up to the job. Undeniably, you are the worst Chairman the Kennel Club has had in its History.

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comments: Dear Terrier World,

after reading the KC Chairman's remarks about being disappointed that only one breeder was chosen among the Founding Members of The Dog Advisory Council I was somewhat surprised.

What he really meant I suspect is that he and the other KC officials who nominated themselves didn't get chosen.

And, just what did Ronnie Irving expect after his crass remarks in the program Pedigree Dogs Exposed? If he had an ounce of conscience in him he would have resigned after that program.

What did he do instead, he fought tooth and nail to keep his position even to the point of humiliating Robin Searle for having the 'Audacity' to propose a fixed term for the Chairman's position at the Kennel Club at this years KC A.G.M. What a Rotter.

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US (email:) on Friday, November 19, 2010 at 01:40:00

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comments: What you need in the UK is strong leadership in your Kennel Club Board.

A Professional Handler should never be allowed to Judge, because there is a conflict of interests.

This can only lead to corruption. The bigger the name the greater the corruption.
Get smart and vote with your feet, do not enter when he judges do not exhibit when he handles.
Drive him out.

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: The winning kerry has faults like all dogs @ bitches .But when you have certain people handling the dog it could have three legs and still win.

So were do the rest of us mere novices stand on one leg???

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breed: Kerry Blue
comments: HAHA don't you mean dog walker, with the right connections .

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comments: What a great breed the Kerry Blue is.

Considering it is one of the rarer breeds and is classed by the Kennel Club as Vulnerable because there are so few of them, the success that this breed has had is remarkable.

In the last fifteen years the Kerry Blue has won more groups and best in shows than any other breed, which is astounding.

They all owe their success to the supreme champion handler Geoff Corish. But, more astonishing is that he never put a brush on any of them.

What a clever man he is. Surely he must be the best handler the world has ever seen?

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comments: I assume that the authors of all the negative comments on here are of the opinion that the Kerry winning Best of Breed is not deserving of that.

Can they point out the reasons why other Kerrys should beat it. What faults does it have?

As a novice I'm interested to know.

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comments: This website is disgusting and I shan't be visiting again.

All that is printed here is designed to damage personal reputations. Geoff Corish is a man who is held in the highest esteem at the Kennel Club. (I don't think that you will print this on this rag bag site)

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comments: Quoting the best in show judge at Midland Counties:

"For BIS l had a super line-up and l thank the group judges for sending me such lovely dogs.
One dog, of course, was not able to compete was of course Chelsey the Kerry Blue, for obvious reasons.
With the points for the top dog contest being so unfair on dogs with small numbers of CCs allocated,
at this time of the year every point counts"

Keep at it Sir, you already have the Chairman of the KC in the 'back pocket' who knows what else you will be allowed to get away with? Maybe handle a dog to best of breed and then judge it yourself in the group at the same show. why not? You do as you please now and get away with it!

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comments: The Professional handler who has just awarded best in show at Midland Counties is judging at Crufts, two breeds in fact Norfolk and Skye terriers.

Will the owner of the kerry that this handler usually shows be exhibiting himself or will it be the handlers partner?

These people do not have any conscience because at the end of this particular raibow is a massive pot of gold and they're all getting a share.

This particular Rainbow and yellow brick road started at LKA last year 2009. Mate and Mentor, travelling companions, Mentor judging mate exhibiting, two Brass Necks together with the Professional Handler giving instruction from the ringside.

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comments: Letter,

regarding your Pro Handler judging. How can you let the guy get away with this? It was said a few years ago that he was coming to the US to work.

He is a laughing stock over here and he could not cut it with even the mid range handlers.

He had a dog sent over from the US a couple of years back and did not band the teeth properly and its mouth went alltogether, it had to come back, its show days finished. The guy is a joke.

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comments:
Sir, Looking at the results for your best Terrier at the Midland County Show I am mystified how you can allow a professional handler to judge best in show when the dog he usually handles is being exhibited.

Okay, it may have been pulled from competing for best in show because it did win best Terrier, but surely your Kennel Club should not allow this kind of thing to happen?

Just who is pulling the strings there? A handler would not even be judging in the US.

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breed: Kerry Blue

comments: Keep entertaining the reader's .It's better than the breed notes in digs (dogs) world .

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comments:
Lordy lordy ! Some thing's just don't change.I was thinking of showing my kerry blue terrier, However after reading peoples comments on this site I have changed my mind.

Keep up the good work slagging each other off.

BYE BYE (You people are doing the kerry breed more harm than good)

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Dear letters, regarding judges my feeling is that breed clubs should only be appointing breed specialists to judge at their shows.

Unfortunately many breed club officials use their position to futher their own judging careers.

We see time and again judges being put forward who nobody has heard of and they get through because the officials have in the meetings where they are selected loaded with their cronies who vote them through.

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comments: After reading the comments that Ronnie Irving has made about about judges and the swapping of appointments it makes me furious.

I have tried to get up the judging ladder and it has been very difficult. Yet we see time and again, people who are only in a breed for a very short period being elevated very quickly.

This happens even when they have not even owned or exhibited the breed. To be quite frank it stinks!

Is it any wonder that people who are keen to judge and are overlooked soon lose heart and may even pack in altogether.

If you are not in the clique it can be many years to reach CC level.

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breed: West Highland White
comments: Dear Letters,

after reading the article the Kennel club Chairman States Obvious article, it is now clear what we have suspected all along, judges are swapping appointments.

Also the fact the Chairman of the Kennel Club has raised this, shows just how serious a problem it has become.

We need an enquiry and those who are proven to be guilty of this should be banned from holding any position in dog clubs.

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comments: Hi, in reply to the writer Judge/breed/Lakeland.

No, this man can not pick Judges. However, he has the ear of the majority of people who run the General championship Shows.

He swaps favours and judging appointments like cigarette cards, without actually owning any, if you get my drift. (I'll get you this if you can get me that for whoever)

Consequently, he has become the maker and the breaker of judging careers. Further to this, if he does you a favour getting you a judging job, when you progress and officiate at CH Show level and he shows under you you have to 'Look' after him. He always wants his favours returned.

I hope that this goes a little way towards you understanding why some Judges are selected. They are in fact being groomed for the future.

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Dear Editor, I recently attended Darlington Dog Show as an observer not an exhibitor.

The purpose of my visit was not only to enjoy watching the Terriers but also to try and find out what the reason was for the appointment of the Lakeland Terrier Judge. Because, there are many in our breed who are desperate for classes in order to qualify for CC status.

I had never even heard of the judge let alone seen her with a Lakeland.

I enquired to an official about how this judge got the appointment for their show and he said; "She got it through Geoff." We all know who Geoff is.

Is this man picking the judges for all of the Terrier Breeds? It is little wonder that he wins big with mediocre dogs.

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comments: Sir,

I recently attended The European Dog Show in Celje Slovenia. I noted the presence of the 'Holiday' Judges that were officiating from the United Kingdom and Eire.

Topping the list from the UK: Ronnie Irving; Frank Kane; Andrew Brace; Brenda Banbury and Albert Wight.

Representing Eire: Sean Delmar; Cathy Delmar; Seamus Oates and Michael Forte.

All UK Judges are Members of the Kennel Club along with the Chairman Ronnie Irving.

The Irish contingancy boasted their top kennel Club Officials Sean and Cathy Delmar.

Very nice work if you can get it. What is the odds you would get placing a bet on Officials from the Euro dog Show getting appointments at shows in the UK and Crufts and also St Patrick's Day Show?

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comments: Dear Editor,

Having read the comments from Natural Justice, they ask the question: "What right does the KC have to impose a fine if the people in the appeal are not KC members?" The simple answer is that they - the KC - have no right whatsoever. But, they are a law unto themselves.

The KC is a Freemason Lodge masquerading as a club. They have members and associate members.
This membership is a smokescreen. The real membership is an inner sanctum consisting of all Freemasons. You will never read in the Dog Press anything about this because they are part and parcel of the same.

We do need another alternative to exhibit our dogs. The KC has become a monster and really has little interest in the ordinary punter, they are more concerned with huge profits. Pedigree Dogs exposed proved this and the action now taken by the KC is nothing more than a shield to deflect the heat.

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comments: Dear Letters,

The Kennel Club are doing their best for the world of dogs. These people who were fined by the Kennel club and desrve all that they have been given.

They appealed and lost. It serves them right.

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comments: Dear Terrier World,

I wondering why nobody has ever spoken up about the Chairman of the KC Ronnie Irving.

It beggars belief that this man prowls around the Border ring when they are being judged. Does this put pressure on the judge? You bet your life it does. After all, every judge would want to officiate at Crufts,
so don't cross big Ron.

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Natural Justice (email:) on Monday, October 04, 2010 at 19:27:21

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reading your front page article, made me both amused and angry. Amused for the obvious tongue in cheek that some of the remarks provoked and angry at the sheer arrogance of the Kennel Club.

How dare they impose fines of such idiotic amounts. The offences that these people have committed are not crimes against the state - they haven't maimed anyone, have they?

It wasn't said if they are Kennel Club members, if they are not what right does the KC have to impose a fine?

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comments: Dear Terrier world Letters,

I was intrigued after I read the Terrier Group Judge's Report for the Scottish Kennel Club. In his report he describes his fourth choice the Soft Coated Wheaten as having a "A Kind Eye" What is that supposed to mean?
This Judge is supposed to be a Terrier expert isn't he?

He also lavishes praise on the handler of his Group Winner, when in fact you could train a Baboon to do what this handler does, so expertly!

If the said judge reads this I would like to point out that saying a dog is "So correct for size" doesn't make it more correct. It is either 'Correct' or it is not.

Another judge playing the follow on game, just in case.

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I have just read with some amusement that someone already knows the CC winners in Kerry Blues at Crufts 2011.

As the judge for the breed I wish they would tell me as it would make my job so easy and also ensure that I don't disappoint them.

Maybe they will have the courage to say who they are and tell us all who the winners are going to be?

Paul Martin

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There is widespread anger at what is going on at dog shows.
What conclusion can we come to when an owner himself a semi pro handler who trims his dog to perfection, employs a best in show judge/handler to take his dog in the ring when he himself is there?

Hopefully Miss Harrison will do a Pedigree Dogs Exposed type programme and expose the corruption within the dog show scene in the UK, it is crying out for it!

If Ms Harrison reads this I am sure she will have no shortage of contributors for her research.

I think a start would be for exhibitors to write down the list of judges in our breeds over the next 18 months and alongside the CC winners - need not be the dogs, exhibitor names will suffice, and send a copy to Ms Harrison and one to the KC, one to each of the dog press and to this website. I can name our CC winners for Crufts 2011 and for many of the the Ch shows.

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Dear Editor, I have been keeping an eye on the Kerry Blue results since I spoke with the Finnish judge
Marja Talvitie who judged them at Southern Counties.

I have known this judge for quite a while and have the utmost respect for her judging capabilities and her integrity.

She was clearly upset that a handler berated her because she did not award him best of breed at
Southern Counties.

Her decision was of course vindicated as her best of breed went on to win the group.

This bullying tactic is common practice apparently with this particular handler, when he does not get his
own way.

It would appear that foreign judge's are not easily intimidated by this handler especially the ones from
Finland.

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comments: Total agree with the comment. Lets watch this space

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comments: Sir,

reading the letter "The Queen has got no clothes on" I made a point of watching the Terrier Group at The Welsh Kennel Club, Builth Wells.

The Judge from Finland didn't even place the recent best in show winner. I think that this reinforces what the letter writer says.

Judges in this country are afraid to 'knock' a dog once a best in show judge has awarded the top honour.
I think that the term coward is a true description of these judges who are not judging the dogs on merit and just following on from the previous Judge.

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comments: Dear Letters,

I wonder if the cat has been let out of the bag so to speak? Is the Queen now seen in the 'Altogether?'
Looking back at recent 'Big Wins' I would say that there are some Judges who should reflect on their awards.

The practice of following on from the last Judge and their placing - for fear of being accused of not knowing a good one - is a cowards way out. There must be some very very angry Best of Breed winners in the Terrier Group.

To quote Mark Twain: "It's better to deserve honors and not have them than to have them and not desrve them." But, I would think that Mark Twain's thoughts are of no consolation to the Terrier Group Best of Breed winners!

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comments: To the editor,

Dear Sir, I have just read your page from the link "could there be an alternative" and I must say that there are some valid points that are made about an alternative organisation.
It has me wondering, why has the two main dog press providers never come up with an argument for debate about this?
I for one would certainly pay a levy toward a fund to set up another body.

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Dear letters,

I was directed to this site by a friend and I must congratulate the owners of the website for actually seeing events as they are.

Terriers are not my chosen breed but I will certainly visit again.

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comments: Dear editor,

I have read in the dog press about a Rough Collie breeder being reprimanded by the Sec of the Kennel Club for making derogatory remarks about two judges.

It would seem that the breeder takes great delight in making mischief on his web site and says:

" I think it is important; I think we should be able to sue a judge or the club." Mr Blake said he alone was responsible for what was written on the site.

"It s my baby," he said. "I'm in my 75th year so why shouldn't I say nasty things about people? I'm burning my bridges while I've still got all my faculties. I might as well have fun, and if it s at the KC s expense so much
the better."

I think Terrier World had better watch out!

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"The Russian Scottie May Be Disqualified...Who Cares! The Kennel Club is asking for proof of postage from certain Exhibitors from Crufts 2010. This is in accordance with KC Regulation F(1)9.e."

Mrs Popova would never present any proof because she has no it!!! She was telling everybody here that she is not going to Crufts this year and at last we faced her!!!

She never does any show if she doesn't shure in winning - she finds all ways to excape fron anpleasent results, but this case with Crufts was horrible!!!

And we hope that KC would make correct decition.

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breed: N/A 13-7-10

Dear Terrier World,

Having read the recent letters I'm inclined to agree in part with both of them.

I agree that a Champions class can indeed lead the way for other dogs to be made up and as the writer says "Cheap Champions." But what other alternative is there?

Should we all just stop going to dog shows until a big winner is out of the way? What is the point in standing around in the open class knowing that the most you can hope for is a second placing? There is absolutely no point in standing in a line up, either to win a class or to compete for a CC when it is already a foregone conclusion. Your are just making up numbers and making the big winner look good.

I think that we all should get real here because this dog will be campaigned at least until Crufts 2011.

Once a dog has won big, other judges just follow suit, in the belief that if they don't put it up whispers will start that they don't know a good one.

Being pretty and standing there without animation is no justification for big wins. All of the great ones have great ring presence.

Since the docking ban all of the big winners seem to have shorter tails than all of the rest and they are like brush handles. Just a look at the others in these breeds and you will see much longer tails and also gay and curled tails. What is the secret that the breeders of these big winners hold? Practically overnight they have produced short tails that are perfectly straight into their lines. Magnificent.

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Dear Terrier World,

If we had a champions class then almost all the other dogs would eventually end up champions, that would be great for our breeds, a shed load of cheap champions, get real this isn't the states, think about it!

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Dear Editor,

I have just read the Judge's preamble to his report for Irish Terriers at Bath.

Mr Vickers is absolutely correct when he say we should have a Champions class.

What is the point in any exhibitor of Kerry Blues entering the open bitch class now? You may as well be throwing your money away.

We eventually got rid of a particular handler from our breed, much to the delight of the many.
But before this our entries were suffering and cliques were forming. Judges were bullied if he didn't win and this had a dramatic effect on exhibitors.

It would seem that another breed has inherited our problem and once rooted this handler is very difficult to shift.

Entering, traveling and all of the other expenses incurred in taking a dog to a show should now be saved until
the big winner has been sold for the big money that has been touted. I would even go so far as to say that if you do enter the other classes and win, don't even compete for the CC, you have no chance of winning it and res is meaningless.

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comments: Dear Terrier World

I thought that it had already been decided long ago that the 'handler' mentioned in recent correspondence could not be described as such.

He can only be described as a Professional Dog Walker. Professional Handling is a highly skilled job.
Anyone can run a dog round a ring, it's called using your connections!!!!!

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comments: Dear Letters,

Reading the comments of the Lady with 'limited experience' her observations are somewhat limited also.

As I understand it, there has not been any suggestion that the dog is of inferior quality. But, the underlying tone of the questioning is why is there a need to employ a handler. The owner of this particular animal could join the Professional ranks quite easily as he is very good at what he does.

Why would you take a dog to a show, prepare it and present it as if from a jelly mold, and then, pay the most expensive handler in any breed, to trot around the ring with it? 'Ockham's Razor'

If you are familiar with 'Ockham's Razor' that is, that the simplest solution is usually the correct one, it would seem that the only reason that this particular Handler is being employed is because he has the ear of every Group and Best In Show Judge.

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breed: Kerry Blue 5-7-10

comments: Dear Terrier World,

Why does it matter who handles a dog, a Pro. or another Handler from the Breed?

Surely what matters is the quality of the dog?

I doubt a Pro. Handler would risk their reputation on a second rate dog?

Having said that Pro. Handlers don`t always win with their charges in my limited experience of the Show World.

Owners have choices surely?

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comments: Dear Terrier World

I have also noticed this particular dog at a show being prepared for the ring by the owner whilst the 'handler' and terrier group judge sat watching him. I don't understand why he doesn't show the dog himself either.

It is supposedly because the owner has other commitments but he manages to be there to prepare the dog and after for the photos. How odd!!

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Dear Terrier World,

I couldn't help wondering why an owner who goes to a show, prepares a dog to be exhibited at the show grooming and trimming etc., and then employs a professional handler to come along and take it into the ring.

I could understand this if the owner is a novice, in which case the handler would surely prepare the dog,
but, this is not the case in this instance.

I have seen the owner who's presentation skills are excellent and is a very good handler himself, win on numerous occasions. Why then is there a need to use this particular handler to win if the dog is good enough?

I'm sure that there are others that have noticed this.

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Sir,

reading your front page article, I first thought that your site is anti Kennel Club. However when I thought about it, what your article " Is it time for an alternative Kennel Club" makes a lot of sense.

Your comparison with the case of the drunk driver and someone breaking Kennel Club rules opened my eyes to the power that the KC have. It made me think, we do not have any alternative but to pay astronomical fines for petty offences, after a lengthy ban, if we wish to continue to show our dogs. This cannot be right.

Has anyone ever enquired about this to the monopolies commission?

I am in total agreement, we do need an alternative body to show our dogs.

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breed: None 6-6-10

Dear Letters,

There you go again, with your outdated misogyny- having a go at women for the way they look.

Come on, even things up and rip into Ronnie Irving, or some other male figures in the dog world, with equally irrelevant comments about their physical attributes or sexual proclivities
(gosh must be plenty to report on there).

You bang on about how outdated the KC is etc.. but listen to yourself: old fashioned, male, misogynist- out of the ark or what?

Seems to me you and the "Edwardian" KC probably share the same old boys network and its values. Sad.

Signed: Anonymous

[ If you want to identify yourself, I will give you a page to air your views. But, I don't think you will come out of the 'Closet'.
The difference between you and me is that I have a pair of Balls. And, I am not afraid to put my name to what I write.
Being 'Anonymous' you are to all intents and purposes an Hermaphrodite. But, whatever your gender the conclusion is the same.
A male, you have no Balls. And, a female? You also have no Balls, but probably suffer from Testicle and Penis envy Ed.]
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breed: None 4-6-10

Dear Editor,

Reading your front page article, ‘This years AGM for the Kennel Club Members proved to be a damp squib’ for me was extremely interesting. I had never given any thought to the workings of the Kennel Club.

I, like I would think thousands of others, regard the Kennel Club, well just as what its name says it is.

The article gave me food for thought.  Who is accountable from the KC to the paying public/we the breeders, exhibitors, Clubs and Societies? We don’t have any say in the running of the Kennel Club, yet they impose all kinds of costs on us because we do not have an alternative.

They even have their Kangaroo courts and fine people outrageous amounts of money for the most trivial of misdemeanours.

There is a need for an ‘Alternative Kennel Club’. A Monopoly is not a good thing no matter what it involves.

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breed: Border 26-5-10

Dear Letters,

Hi, 'Came across your site and 'like it very much.

I have to say though that I was put off to read the comments about Claire 'Butch' Balding and Caroline Kisko looking like a waxwork from Mme Tussauds.

I think everything else in the articles is spot on and commendable, but (and it's your website, you can write what you like of course), is it necessary to write about people like that. I'm sure Claire Balding is a decent human being and I think it's cheap and nasty to write about someone you may not know, like that.

Up to you - I like everything else but that's not necessary in an otherwise well written piece.

Jay Horgan (Staffs)

[ I am glad that you like the Magazine and there are ' Donate ' buttons in various places on the site.
This particular ' Muckraker ' provides all of the news, show results and Judge's Critiques etc. - which takes a considerable amount of time - for free, including Stud And Litter Adverts.

Ms Balding may well be all that you say she is; I don't know her. However, your sensitivity to my observations of her - if you don't know her either - are a little puzzling to me.

Millionaire Claire comes across as ignorant and arrogant with her crass remarks when fronting TV Programs.
Your defence of Ms Balding is admirable, but I'm sure the Presenter is thick enough skinned along with her formidable [ Desperate Dan ] jaw line, to take it on the chin. After all, her crass remarks, are seen and heard by millions.

Regarding Caroline Kisko - the apologist and cohort of Ronnie Irving, the KC Chairman - the wax really is a remarkable likeness, don't you think? Ed.]

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breed: None Given 12-4-10

Dear Letters,

comments: I'm really astonished and sorry that whoever writes/edits your news sees fit to join the ranks of gutter journalism in conflating Clare Balding's views on GSD's with vile comments about the way she looks/her sexuality.

To disagree with Clare Balding's views on matters she perhaps does not understand is fine, but to take such cheap shots does you and your online journal a great disservice.

Grow up or go write for the News of the World.

Signed: Anonymous

[Presumably the writer of the above thinks that it's okay to humiliate a Grand National winning Jockey - with an audience of millions watching on television. Clare Balding interviewed Liam Treadwell after his magnificent win at Aintree and made an outrageous comment about his crooked teeth. That's okay then is it? Ed.] .

(Identify yourself and your question may be answered)

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breed: Kerry Blue 7-3-10

comments: Dog World Bedlam Kerry Blue Breed Notes

Dear letters,

I read with amusement D/W Kerry Blue Breed Notes 5-3-10. The writer of these notes gets more incredulous by the week.

She wrote:

"I RECALL writing several months ago about dog and people photographs in advertisements and found it interesting to come across yet another DOG WORLD with similar observations by Andrew Brace who said: “We have now become accustomed to the modern ‘win pic’ favoured by most exhibitors in their advertising, where the dog’s handler seems to be as important as the dog itself.
Of course everyone to their own, but isn’t the dog the important subject? It is nice to see ‘everyday’ pictures of dogs with their owners and some relaxed pictures, but I personally still much prefer to see the dog as the prominent and important feature in show stance." (Yeah, just like the one from Crufts with Mrs Munro)

Follow the links:

http://www.highampress.co.uk/blackpool/terrier.asp?show=Blackpool 2009&ttl=Blackpool 2009 - Terrier Group
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thekennelclub/3332136895/in/set-72157614793314667/

Now anyone who isn't a half wit wouldn't write the above if they had posed for the photos in the links. As I understand it, you are not forced to be in any win photograph with a dog.

I don't wish to repeat what has already been published, but I really do think that it is necessary. Do you think that the Breed Correspondent is aping the Prime Minister? For Gordon Brown is detached from reality too.

Could it be sour grapes?

Signed Picture Perfect2
Anonymous

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breed: N/A 22-12-09

comments: Who am I?

The Cynics will always surface when there is an introduction of new ideas.  We must look forward from the BBC program and get real.  Let’s face it there are some very serious issues with many breeds that need to be addressed.

There is another issue that needs to be looked at.  Identity.

DNA Profiling is the only way forward for dog identity. Micro chipping can be removed, ears that have been tattooed  can be removed, DNA remains.  Furthermore, DNA profiling is the only sure way to ensure that dogs carrying serious faults even though they may be big winners are identified if used at stud or for litters.

As was exposed in the BBC program; unscrupulous breeders do not care a jot as long as they get CH in front of the dog’s name.

By Email

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breed: N/A 22-12-09

comments:

Dear letters,

I agree with the writer who says that the Accredited Breeders Scheme is “the thin end of the wedge”

I remember many years ago when the Suttons were trying to have the entry fees for shows increased dramatically.

This would have out priced the Hobbyist from dog showing and then left the spoils to the ‘Elite’.

We should be very wary of this Breeders scheme and all that will follow on from it.

By Email

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breed: None 22-12-09

comments: What It Says On The Tin.

Dear Editor,

I would like to add my view for what it’s worth regarding the accredited Breeders Scheme. In essence I think that it is a good idea, but, the Kennel Club and its so called concern for the welfare of dogs is a thin veneer.

The kennel Club is money driven, always has been and always will be. It is a very exclusive club run by a Hierarchy of Freemasons.

The program Pedigree Dogs Exposed did indeed expose the Kennel Club for what it is; a money spinning monopoly with a tight grip on the world of pedigree dogs. Until there is real transparency from the Kennel Club we should regard anything that the Kennel Club proposes that costs more money as exactly what it says on the tin; We Want More Money From You.

By Email

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breed: N/A 21-12-09

comments: Loadsa Money

Sir,

I find the article published (Terrier World News 21st December 09) by Ronnie Irving on the RSPCA’s response to the Apgaw report incredulous. Is this the same Ronnie Irving who reacted so arrogantly when being interviewed in the BBC program ‘Pedigree Dogs Exposed’ ?

I also find it fascinating that Irving bleats on about the ‘Accredited Breeders Scheme’.
We all know that this was another money spinner for the Kennel Club even before the BBC program.

The program and all of the furore that followed it has added weight to this money spinner.
And what next? The Accredited Breeders Scheme is the thin end of the wedge.

Bank on me; what will follow will be that you won’t be able to register dogs unless you are an
Accredited Breeder and it is a knocking bet that the cost of becoming an Accredited Breeder will then soar.

Fall into the Accredited Breeders trap if you will; you have been warned.
It is another money making racket for the Kennel Club. Don’t Join It!

By Email

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breed: Kerry Blue 4-11-09

comments: How would we know?

Dear Terrier World,

I cannot understand what all of this fuss is about regarding the Kerry Blue breed Notes in Dog World.

How on earth would we readers know what is in the many articles printed in Dog World if Mrs Munro didn't include them in her notes? It is common knowledge that everyone who buys Dog World at a cost of £2.20 does so just to read the Kerry Breed Notes.

So all of you, yes, all of you, get off Mrs Munro's back and support her. She is providing a specialist service to the whole of the country who cannot understand articles unless they are in the Kerry Notes.

Signed: Eternally Grateful
Anonymous


breed: Kerry Blue 23-10-09

comments: To Err is human, to Forgive Divine.

Dear Terrier World,

I waited in vain for mistakes to be rectified 16/10/09 D/W Kerry Blue breed notes. No such luck.
It would seem that "AT BELFAST Jack Watson was judging the breed with CCs for the first time. From an entry of 11 consisting of five males and six females with one of each sex absent he awarded DCC, his first, and BOB to Cussack, O’Brien and Poulova’s Ir Ch Edbrios Marco Polo who was bred by O’Brien and Poulova."
This first CC must be presumably added to the 'First' CC he won under Tony Manning at the same show in 2008.

And yet again in D/W notes this week we have a three years old BP winner announced at Driffield "BP was Paula Ward’s homebred Rimbert Phantom Menace DOB 2/12/06 (Tunde Bayou ex Ch Torum’s Dixie Lee). I think this was the first championship show for this puppy though his sisters have acquitted themselves very well with Queen Padme being a consistent puppy winner and R Queen Of Naboo at Lemracdream taking BP at Darlington" ( If his sisters are doing well, maybe he sired himself)

There is always self promotion bubbling away in the Kerry Notes and unfortunately there is nothing that we can do about this. But, surely, the very least that we should expect from the writer is correct information.
What do we get instead? Continual inaccuracies some corrected others never - depending on whom the breeder/handler/owner is.
We also get line upon line of replicated articles belonging other writers.

Is there linage being paid by D/W? I wonder.

Signed: Wishful Thinking.
Anonymous


breed: N/A 13-10-09

comments:

Dear Terrierworld,

I am writing to voice my disgust with the Kennel Club and the remarks attributed to the Chairman
Ronnie Irving that Mr Irving had suggested GSD breed clubs should get their house in order or they would be thrown out of the KC.

Once again Mr Irving's apologist ( Mrs Kisko ) has been wheeled out to try and diffuse the situation brought about by the arrogant Chairman alleged remarks. We all saw in the TV Documentary Pedigree Dogs Exposed
just how short the Chairman's fuse is when under pressure and it is overwhelmingly obvious that he bristles with arrogance. The Chairman should have done the honorable thing and resigned after the BBC program.
However, power is infectious and once it has bitten it is never readily relinquished.

I suggest that since Crufts is now back on TV 2010, shouldn't the Chairman take the lead and judge all of the breeds that are contentious? Yes, let him, Irving start the ball rolling in full view of the watching world on TV; let him be the one to cast the first stone! But what does he preside over instead? Sending out letters to all judges to do the so called dirty work for him and his cohorts at Clarges Street. ( All Judges will have received this letter in the last two weeks)

In my view the sooner we are shot of Ronnie Irving the better.

Signed: Paws For Thought

Email Address Supplied

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breed: Kerry Blue 19-9-09

comments: Why?

Dear Letters,

I read the letter by Picture Perfect Dated 7/08/09 and followed the link to the Fickr site.
The picture it takes you to, is of Mrs P Munro with the Kerry Blue Best Of Breed winner Crufts 2009.
Nothing wrong with that. But, to then write about people wanting to get in on the act so to speak when pictures of their Kerries are taken, screams of; ' Don't do as I do, do as I say. ' How else can anyone conclude it to be otherwise?
Just a thought; If I had such strong views as it appears Mrs Munro has about being Photographed when she wrote in Dog World 7th August:

" Does our present day society have the all about me attitude as it does seem to me that long gone are the days of dogs being the important feature in pictures ."

I would have refused to be in the picture if I didn't want to be in it. The composition is down to the photographer, and it's not set in stone. Did she think that the KC would disqualify the dog if she didn't grace the picture?

Why then did she not ask the owners to pose for the pictures with the dog? Or, just say to the Kennel Club Photographer 'No thank you, I don't want to be in the picture' There are four BOB Terrier winners of 2009 on Flickr without handlers in the pictures.
And when has it been a requirement for your photograph to be taken if you win BOB? It may be a request but it isn't an obligation.

It seems to me that when those remarks were written by Mrs Munro she was clearly targeting someone and her remarks have come back to bite her on the bum.

The rules for snide remarks are: Never make one if you are guilty of the same thing.
The rules for holes are: When in one, stop digging.

For example: Taken From Dog World Kerry Breed Notes 28th August:

" Carrying on from the column of Aug 8, those who know me are fully aware how I dislike having my photo taken. By all accounts I am now being accused of being hypocritical as comparison is being made to the KC’s website showing pictures of Crufts winners and the Aug 8 column. It was a requirement at Crufts that BOB winners were photographed with the dogs in a non-show position with the owner/handler – and who am I to rock the boat? It doesn’t mean I have to like the idea. I was certainly unaware at the time exactly why these were required and who, in fact, was taking photos as there were so many. "

Why carry on digging when you are in a hole, you only make it deeper!

Gone are the days when the only access to information was if you kept every darn snippet of information just in case you may need it for reference. God Bless The Internet and God Bless Terrier World, for without them there would be just one voice singing it's own praises, as it was in the past.

Signed: The Dark Room For Developers.
Anonymous

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breed: Wire Haired Tasmanian Devil 22-8-09

comments: KC Chairman's Annual Address To The Welsh Kennel Club's Dinner Congregation.

Sir,

After reading the report of Chairman Irving's Speech to the congregation at the WKC's Annual Dinner, I found myself laughing at some of the content and furious at other parts of it.

Chairman Irving suggests that we the societys who stage dog shows in all cases should;
" should remember that they should be entertaining and educational and not aimed at self-glorification."

Wow! Isn't this rich coming from the Kennel Club that has a 'Guaranteed Income' from every Society for licenses and all of the rest of it and the income from the registering of litters and all that goes with this too? Moreover, who are the biggest self back slappers and glory hunters in the business? Yes of course it is the Kennel Club!

Isn't it also rich that Chairman Irving uses the Welsh Annual Dinner to voice his prepared speeches and to lecture us in his smug way. Yet, when he should have stood up and been counted after the ' Pedigree Dogs Exposed ' program, he went to ground, leaving the hapless Caroline Kisko and Bill Lambert to deal with the media.

In the program, the KC Chairman who has been breeding Borders for 42 years now, was asked by the interviewer for Pedigree Dogs Exposed what he thought of inbreeding. He denied breeding father/daughter or brother/sister but he DID confirm he had bred grandfather/granddaughter.

Further into the program, he also dismissed a scientific report about the problems of inbreeding as being "unscientific & emotive" then, later in the program when he was flustered, said "no scientist is going to tell me how to breed dogs when I've been doing it for 40 years." etc etc

Was this final part of his speech to the Welsh Dinner Assembly trying to justify the above statement and the absolute 'Dogs Dinner' he made of himself in the program Pedigree Dogs Exposed;

He said, “Yes, we believe that science and rules are an important part of the solution but we believe also that breeders – especially responsible and experienced breeders – should be helped by the science and the rules but should not be controlled by them."

We should not forget that the Program Pedigree dogs Exposed was two years in the making and Chairman Irving's inept Leadership was exposed when asked perfectly legitimate questions.

The Kennel Club was in a state of panic after the TV Program and was for some time thereafter being dragged along by events rather than controlling and dictating them.

Anonymous

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breed: Kerry Blue 7-8-09

comments: Just read DW breed notes 7th Aug, Couldnt agree more with MS Munro.

Perhaps she has inadvertantly started the trend with photo that can be seen at this location

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thekennelclub/3332136895/in/set-72157614793314667/


Ms Munro Writes "On many occasions I have seen photos of owners with dogs who are holding a dog in their arms or sitting the dog front on with the owner posed beside obviously in order to be included.
I cannot see how a dog can be seen from show photos as a show dog if it is sitting down or being held in someones arms. Does our present day society have the all about me attitude as it does seem to me that long gone are the days of dogs being the important feature in pictures".

Signed Picture Perfect
Anonymous

(EDITOR: In The Boxing Ring They Say Don't Lead With Your Chin Or You May End Up With A Cauliflower Arse.
But, It May An Age Thing; Going Through The MemoryPause Perhaps?)

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breed: Airedale 7-8-09
comments:

Regarding the comments from Alex on Professional Handlers I need to offer a comment.

The Sealyham that won Crufts was a winner on merit in Europe, America and Crufts. How much I would love to see the handler and dog in Australia. A joy to be in a line up together and no shame to lose.

One of the things that make dog shows exciting is speculation. Of course this was the talk of Birmingham.

A stunning exhibit of the highest class.

Keith Lovell
Australia

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breed: None 9-7-09
comments:

I read the news page of Terrier World dated July 9th 2009 and to be quite honest I was absolutely amazed at the new breed that may be on display at Crufts 2010.

Is there an address that I can contact with a view to purchasing a pup?

What Group will it be in?

Keep up the good work all you at Terrier World, I enjoy the site.

Ben Turpin

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breed: None 27-5-09
comments:

Dear Terrier world,

It would seem that the advice Mrs Munro has been advocating in the Kerry Breed Notes/ Dog World about non exhibitors being allowed to breed has at last struck home.

The Queen is finally giving up breeding her Corgis. Her Majesty should have stopped years ago, she has never shown any of them to my knowledge, but then I could be wrong.

It would seem that HRH has had enough holidays and new cars. It will give the Show Exhibitors a chance now.

Anonymous

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breed: None 7-5-09
comments:

Dear Terrier world,

Fair comment what Alex Brittain wrote, but anyone with an eye for a dog can see that the Sealyham is stunning.

Anonymous

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breed: Norfolk 1-5-09
comments:

Dear Terrier world,

I showed one of my dogs at Crufts,2009. Within an hour of the start of day 1 of Crufts the hall was buzzing with talk that it would be the Sealyham that would win B.I.S this year...and, guess what??

I wrote to the Kennel Club suggesting that they should introduce a system of showing dogs where they were shown by K.C.handlers who drew the number of the dog from a hat! Needless to say, they didn't reply.

The whole world of dog showing is run on the "Judges Favour" system. Totally corrupt.

Alex Brittain
(Email provided)

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breed: Kerry Blue 29-3-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

I have just read the breed notes for the kerrys 25/3/09 and for me it sums up the writer for dog world. This woman has been using her space in the dog world breed notes for years to further her own ends.

Full marks to this new area that we now have to air our views and highlight the awful things that are going on in kerrys.

Thank you.

(Name and Email provided)

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: na 28-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Just checked on the KCs website. Geoff Corish did judge Westies at Crufts 2000 when Mike Coad won best in show.

Gumshoe

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: Kerry 27-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

If as the writer A Another sugests, that co-habiting partners one judging and the other handling at the same show and on the same day is correct, then something is seriously wrong in the UK.

Surely the British Kennel Club Board can not condone this; or does it?

True Blue US

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: Any 27-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Blackdog raises some interesting points about handling and is obviously a keen observer, and factually correct.

But, the most interesting point to me is in his paragraph, "Regarding Best In Show At Crufts". He puts forward a strong case when he imply's that you do not require any skills to judge best in show, stating quite correctly that the supposedly best from the six groups have been chosen for you.

We have all seen and heard the BBC presenters drooling and uttering superlatives about each and every one of the six finalists for best in show and each adding little snippets of gossip and tips about a so called favorite to win. What happens when the winner is picked? Nothing except ooh's and ah and it was the ........whatever. A big yawn everyone. Blackdog is right it doesn't matter which one it is.

As a Handler I will judge if invited because there isn't any rule to say that I can't. But because I do doesn't mean that it's right. Considering that this discussion is all about "A question of ethics for the Kennel Club"
there are certain facts that have disturbed me for quite a while. At Crufts Millennium Show 2000 the best in show winner was handled professionally. At this very same show his co-habiting gay partner himself a professional handler, judged Westies.
The fact that the eventual best in show winner handled by the Westie judges partner, went into the group and then challenged for best in show should never have been allowed.

Blackdog finishes his paragraph stating that if a dog snaps at a judge it should be dismissed, no matter how good it is. I agree. Yet, at the very same show Crufts 2000 the best in show winner tried to bite the judge's hand. Should it have been dismissed, If not why not? The only answer to this is privy to the two professionals and the best in show judge. As Blackdog said about the Cosa Nostra," Are you connected?"

A Another.

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: None 24-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Confused is a fitting title from the writer of "Re: Crufts BIS 2013"

Let me explain so 'Confused' will no longer be confused. Eh? I will call you "Hermaphrodite" so that everybody isn't confused.

Whenever someone is prepared to pay you for your skills, you are regarded as a 'Professional'.

So Hermaphrodite, the title "Professional Handler" is a little ambiguous. That is why I say that Geoff Corish is a
"Professional Dog Walker".

What is the difference?

A PROFESSIONAL HANDLER:
A Handler will have a team of dogs, and you will see he/she constantly attending to them, before and in between judging, daffying them up, pulling bits of coat out, tipping with scissors; even washing the dogs. Grooming is constant, ensuring that the final picture presented to the Judge for assessment is pristine. This also takes place before shows at the handlers kennels with constant attention being given and precise timing needed for pulling coat to ensure the best possible presentation on show day. The likes of Bob Barlow, Ernest Sharpe, Billy Mitchell, Les Atkinson, Frankie Kellett, Herbert Atkinson and Fred Sills. They were Professional Handlers, all deceased except Ernest who I think has all but retired. I won't mention others as you can see them at any show doing what they do. This is the Professional Handler's routine.

A PROFESSIONAL DOG WALKER:
A Dog Walker is a completely dIfferent. What you get is exactly what's on the tin! They don't prepare the dogs, they don't groom the dogs, in fact you could teach a Chimpanzee to do what they do. They take the dogs from the owners, who have done all of the work themselves and walk it around the ring. But, what they have got that Chimpanzees don't have, is connections. Like the Mafia would say; "Are you connected?"

REGARDING BEST IN SHOW AT CRUFTS: Give me one single day to coach anyone who has never even been to a dog show and they could judge Best In Show at Crufts, or any other major Championship show! Six dogs, do me a favor! When all the work that the Breed Judges and Group Judges sorting out the best ones has been done for them you could do it blindfold. Pick any one of the six dogs and nobody would bat an eyelid. It doesn't matter which one wins, it is the phoniest finale that you will ever come across. If you win a group and have to return on another day for Best In Show, it is a non event. And, nine times out of ten the outcome is already decided, it is purely cosmetic. Crufts is no different.
There are occasions when a Best In Show Judge should dismiss a dog for an award. For example, if the dog happens to go lame, or if it is spooked and will not show, or if the dog snaps at the Judge. No matter how good the dog is, these things can not be ignored.

So Hermaphrodite, I hope things are a little more clear for you.

Blackdog

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: Terrier 24-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Re: Crufts BIS 2013. Reading the comments from "Blackdog" 17-2-09 I am a little confused. Why does he/she say that Geoff Corish is not a professional handler, but a professional dog walker? All of the dogs that you will see him with are turned out immaculately and are a credit to his skills as a professional handler.

In my mind, this is why he will be judging best in show at Crufts.

Confused.

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Dark Side Of The Puppy Trade Exposed By New BBC Documentary

breed: Many 19-2-09
comments:
Champions From Eleven Different Breeds

Dear Terrier World,

I have just watched the BBC Rogue Traders about a pet shop and a puppy farm selling puppies to the public that are ill.

The RSPCA was called in [ to inspect the puppy farm ] but declined to visit that day. They did inspect the Kennels the next day and found nothing wrong.

That gave the owner twenty four hours to tidy up.

The puppies purchased died within a day or two from parvovirus.
That means that it [ parvo ] was on the premises as it takes six months to sterilise a kennel after the disease.

What sort of job are the RSPCA doing !!!

My kennels are inspected twice a year by the council and you know when the inspectors arrive that they haven’t got a clue how a kennel should be run and it's probably the same with the RSPCA.

I pride myself in the kennels and have been breeding for over forty years and anyone can visit without prior arrangement to see they are clean, with the animals well fed, watered, exercised and happy.

To run a large kennel is expensive and can cost over a thousand pound per week to run, wages, heating, food, veterinary costs etc.
So when you sell puppies it is not all profit in fact add your time and it is a labour of love.

Then at the end of the program came the crunch !!! Why buy a pedigree dog when there are thousands wanting homes?

Well a pedigree dog from a breeder/show kennel has had years of expertise into the breed that they have for sale.
Most show kennels of repute breed litters with the intention of keeping a puppy from the litter for themselves to show and further the breeding program.
So from this litter say from a Great Dane to a Chihuahua you are getting the best bloodlines that money can buy.

If you wanted a Derby winner in horses you would not go to the knackers yard.

Pedigree versus crossbred/mongrel: Crossbreds are two breeds eg: German Shepherd/Dobermann.
A mongrel is mixed, maybe the litter had one or two sires and the dam was also of mixed race.

You can go to the RSPCA kennels and dogs homes and you will see very few pedigree dogs but hundreds of mongrels. Why ?

The reason is nobody wants them because a lot of the time they are in there for a reason, nasty, dirty, chewers, over sexed.

If you own a mongrel and it is a nice dog, good with the children, clean, well mannered and you lost him or her you would go out of your way to get him/her back. But if it's nasty, dirty etc you would be glad to see the back of it.

Then there are the puppies thrown out by callous people and end up in these homes.

You take the family to pick a puppy a lovely bundle of fluff and then it may grow up too big and be the nasty, dirty dog and ends up back where it came from.
With a pedigree dog from a respective breeder you at least know what you are getting.

To all my fellow breeders, never breed from a nasty dog, try your best to insure the puppy has no hereditary diseases.

We can only do our best and there are very many good breeders who’s heart and soul are in their dogs.
Stand United !

Judith Averis (Saredon Kennels)

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: Kerry 17-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

It will be very difficult to have a Pro Handler who may have handled dogs belonging to people who will be showing at Crufts.

Deccy

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: none 17-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Rumour or solid facts? This has been going around for quite a bit now and the serious money is on
Geoff Corish; who else could it be?

'Cat got the cream? He should have kept his trap shut!

Word has it that he has been penciled in for best in show at Crufts in the near future. If you look at it logically, he is the only so called Pro Handler who has judged best in show at the big shows.

Not bad for a Professional Dog Walker. No, he is not a Pro Handler, he's a dog walker and a very very expensive one too.

Oh my dog, wee should all Bow Wow Wow down to him!

Blackdog.

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: none 16-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Some interesting thoughts by your readers.

But, the question that has not been asked as of yet is, "Who is the professional handler?" Any one know who it is?

Justa Wondering

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: Any 13-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

As a "Professional" Handler myself I can understand the concern about handlers judging. Should handlers be allowed to judge? There is only one answer, No. Do I judge? Yes. I will accept appointments if invited, because there isn't a rule to say that I can't.

Is it "Ethical" to do both? A resounding No! When I am invited to judge a particular breed, there is usually refreshments provided before or after depending on what time you judge. In the restaurants there are other judges having lunch. The conversations are always to do with dogs. Can you plant seeds with them? Of course you can! And can this lead to a bias when you show under them, Yes it can and does happen. This is why it is unethical to be able to do both.

A Another.

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: Kuvasz 8-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

In the US we have many professional handlers who do a great job. They are on the road sometimes for many weeks at a time, with some employing many junior handlers.

I can't understand why the English KC allows pro handlers to judge. It doesn't happen in the US and quite rightly so.

What is going on over there?

Erling Klausen USA

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: Westie 8-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Keith Lovell's view sums it all up. You choose one or the other, as a 'Professional Handler' or as an ordinary Exhibitor who chooses to become involved in judging.
This is usually started by judging match meetings, Limit Shows and then Open Shows. They are then given other breeds as their expertise developes and thus they then gain a lot of knowledge and experience.

Professional Handlers should be prohibited from Judging by the KC until they finish their profession.
The sooner the Kennel Club gets to grips with this the better. Further; just because a judge is a Professional Handler, doesn't necesseraly make them a good Judge! I have seen some very strange awards given by the so called Professionals.

Spot The Westie.

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Crufts Best In Show Judge 2013

breed: Airedale 7-2-09
comments:

Dear Terrier World,

Professional handlers often have an amazing knowledge of a number of breeds. They make a significant contribution to the quality of presentation and handling in our show rings. It is arguable that they are of overall benefit to the fraternity as their winning regularly exceeds that that the same dog would achieve if owner handled. They can have the effect of lesser dogs being sought for stud work and frustrated owner handlers drifting away from shows.
(However,I acknowledge that they also can bring out the best in a great dog that may never have made the ring without professional help.)

As for judging! Why? They have made their choice. They choose to be paid by the people who can afford them and there is no doubt they give value for money. Who however wants professionalism to influence judging decisions? Who wants to be judged by somebody who may never have read the breed standard? Why be judged by somebody bound not by the judges rules and ethics but with their own set of handlers rules and ethics. Such a prestigious appointment would see their stakes rise as a professional handler and certainly be good for their business.

Judges work hard to develop their skills, learn standards and gain experience. Let them do their job or lose them just like we have lost many potential future breeders and exhibiters who just could never get a foot in the door because of the amazing skills of the professional.

In many Countries' rules a judge is not permitted to handle for other people. In the USA a handler (or Kennel Club employee) is not permitted to judge in the USA.

Crufts, above all other shows in the UK, should send the right message. Surely with their amazing recources and The Kennel Clubs influence world wide they could find a qualified judge who has the ability, presentation and probably never judged a best in show before. Indeed I bet they have.

This is more than likely an ugly rumour and does not even deserve this response.

Keith Lovell

Airedale and Welsh Terriers Downunder.

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BBC DOCUMENTARY PEDIGREE DOGS EXPOSED
‘The Kennel Club Answers Back’

23-09-08

Dear Terrier World,

Re the Kennel Club documentary.

All breeders are not unconcerned with the health issues on their breeds but the program seemed to tar us all with the same brush.

I have been breeding for over 40 years and if there are health issues in my breeds I have all the necessary tests done on my dogs.

Airedales are x-rayed for hip dysplasia and if any one of mine had a high score it would never be bred from.

You can however, have a stud dog and a brood bitch with good scores and still get [hip] dysplasia but this is rare and by having the dogs x-rayed we have done our best.

Micro-chipping and DNA is a good thing in breeds as it leaves no doubt that breeders have switched pedigrees.

My suggestion to The Kennel Club is to have a two tier registration scheme as the Cat Clubs do.

You register all your puppies with the Kennel Club. If you wish to use a dog at Stud or Breed from a bitch you need to get any health checks done relating to that breed and if they pass they go onto an active register.

If they fail the tests they stay where they are and any progeny cannot be registered.

I am not on the accredited Breeders Scheme as I feel this is for any one and if I had a dog with a genetic disorder I could still breed from her or use him at stud.

All you require is DNA and micro-chipping to go on the scheme.

I have people coming to use my dogs at Stud and it maybe their first ever litter and they bring me the purple accredited breeders form to sign and [they] haven't a clue about dogs.

'Accredited' should stand for something as it does in Horse, Sheep, cattle and pigs. You cannot register these animals without first testing them.

JUDITH AVERIS SAREDON KENNELS

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19-09-08

Dear Terrier World,

Oh what a can of worms the BBC Documentary has opened. We now have two of the big names in animal charities disassociating themselves with the Kennel Club and its Premier Dog Show Crufts. The comments from the spokes persons for the Kennel Club have been disastrous.
What is needed is strong leadership and a root and branch inquiry, not just on the health problems, but into the whole
of the dog showing world.
There needs to be a DNA profile of every dog that is registered with the KC. This would ensure that the bloodlines on pedigrees are correct.
Cosmetic enhancement of any animal should be stamped on with lifetime bans.
Professional Handlers should be barred from Judging; they either handle, or judge, as it is in America.
People in high positions within dog clubs should refrain from showing dogs; namely the Chairman Of The Kennel Club - one or the other.
If you want to exhibit dogs stay away from high office.
What is needed from the Kennel Club is total Transparency.
Do the Kennel Club publish its accounts? How much money
have they actually got and what is the value of their assets?
Shouldn't the Kennel Club be putting some of their millions
of pounds back into dogs and exhibitors; if not why not? Why do they need all of the millions of pounds that they have accrued from exhibitors?

(Confidentiality Requested)

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28-08-08

Dear Terrier World,

I don't think the programme was one-sided at all - it just presented the facts objectively & scientificaly & exposed what has been going on. It confirmed many of my fears over the way some pedigree breeds look now & explained why.

As to the KC Chairman/Spokesperson who has been breeding Borders for 40 years - he denied breeding father/daughter or brother/sister but he DID confirm he had bred grandfather/grandaughter.

He also dismissed a scientific report about the problems of inbreeding as being unscientific & emotive then, later in the programme when he was flustered, said "no scientist was going to tell him" how to breed dogs when he'd been doing it for 40 years, etc etc

I was extremely saddened by the ataxic German Shepherds staggering around on their weak back legs & the Cavalier King Charles spaniel whining in agony with syringomyalia.

I would like to see more awareness of proper genetics in dog breeding & more objective input from science rather than irresponsible people indiscriminatingly breeding dogs for money & status.

Please note I'm NOT implying that ALL breeders are like this but there seems to be mounting evidence that there are a good few out there.

(Confidentiality Requested)

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BBC DOCUMENTARY PEDIGREE DOGS EXPOSED
‘The Kennel Club Answers Back’

25-09-08

Dear Terrier World,

I would agree with Judith Averis's letter; we have all been tarred with the same brush.

The kennel Club's response to all of this has been woefully inadequate. (Is it any wonder the debate on docking was lost?)

Where is the Chairman Ronnie irving, has he gone to ground? Is he so inarticulate that he is in hiding?

Quite frankly, Kisco and Lambert are also out of their depth when even rudimentary questions are put to them. They lack the gravitas of a strong Chairman who knows his facts and is prepared for probing questions. In any organization the ultimate responsibility belongs to the Chairman; the buck stops there. If he's not up to the job he should go. His position [The Chairman] is becoming increasingly untenable.

The writer who suggested an alternative Kennel Club is talking a lot of sense. But, unfortunately, this would take a massive amount of courage from those who are prepared to break away. The existing Kennel Club would ban them and not allow registration of their dogs.

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21-09-08

Dear Terrier World,

There are rumors that the Pekingese clubs feel so threatened by the Kennel Club's attitude in targeting their breed, they may break away and form their own Kennel Club. Would this be a bad thing?

The Kennel Club as we know it has had a total Monopoly on dogs for far to long.

What the World Of Dogs needs is an alternative Kennel Club. This would ensure that there would be another direction to go and it would encourage healthy competition; not just the do as we say attitude of the Kennel Club.

(Confidentiality Requested)

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29-08-08

Dear Terrier World,

I have watched the BBC Documentary ‘Pedigree Dogs Exposed’ and the ‘Kennel Club Answers Back’ a number of times now and it leads me to believe that the Kennel Club Hierarchy is woefully inept.

In the BBC Documentary perfectly valid points were raised by the program makers about disturbing health issues in various breeds. Inbreeding also seemed to be a very contentious issue, yet, when the Chairman of the Kennel Club was asked probing question on this matter, it appeared that he was in deep waters unable to swim.

The program ‘The Kennel Club Answers Back’ also amazed me. The spokesperson for the Kennel Club, Caroline Kisko, was asked about the health problems in certain breeds. Her answer was unbelievably astonishing. She stated that some health problems had been inherited by the KC in some breeds, from Victorian times. Yes, Victorian times! It is 2008 for goodness sakes!

Do we as breeders need a change of leadership? Of course we do. But, the problem that we have as breeders and exhibitors is that we have absolutely no say in the matter. Why? Because the Kennel Club is exactly what it says, it is a Club, a very Exclusive Club. The obvious question is why do we not join the club and bring about change? It can’t be that simple can it? No. Unfortunately you can only ever be an Associate Member of the Kennel Club.

Associate membership was introduced by the Kennel Club not to increase its membership, but to increase its revenue. The uninformed people who are associate members live in hope of becoming full members at some period. This will never happen to the majority of the associates, because to become a full member you have to be a Freemason, proposed by other Freemasons for entry. The Kennel Club is a very exclusive Club because it is a Freemason Lodge.

(Confidentiality Requested)

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22-08-08

Dear Terrier World,

Sir,
To say that I was shocked at what I saw in the BBC documentary ‘Pedigree Dogs Exposed’ on Tuesday night would be an understatement.

Watching the suffering of the King Charles Spaniel and that poor Boxer dog that were filmed in the program was most distressing.

It makes one wonder just how much interest the Kennel Club takes in those particular breeds that have clearly had serious problems for a long time.

Does the Kennel Club just regard these breeds as nothing more than cash cows that will increase the millions of pounds that it already has; moneys that have been harvested from dog owners?

(NAME AND EMAIL SUPPLIED)

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12-06-08 USA

Dear Terrier World

Great Magazine.
Is this the six degrees of separation?
I have two AKC champion Kerries. Lilah and Inky. In turn, I chose my kennel name Kerrylink using the first two letters and the last two letters from there names. The thing is that a friend of mine was on vacation and came across a pub in Ireland
"The Danny Mann Inn" which just happens to be in county Kerry. I did drop them a line and told them the story, and that I have American mascots for them.
Irony?
Just thought I would share

Danny Mann

USA

 

 

13-06-08

breed: Glen of Imaal
Dear Terrier World,

Just been 'tidying'out my show bag & found your flyer given to me at National Terrier.
The head study you have of a Glen on your Breeds page is appalling & unrecognisable as a Glen. Hound ears are penalised in our standard.

Mrs MA Quinn
Thirsk,
North Yorkshire

[ We at terrierworld.co.uk share your concern. We have informed the 'Glen Of Imaal Ear Police to seek out and apprehend the Artist responsible. When he is arrested he will be held in quarantine until 2009. He will be taken to the NEC on the final day of Crufts to fight Ronnie Irving 'Bare Knuckled' in kilts (Before BIS) as his punishment. ]

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VETERINARY MALPRACTICE 05-06-08

Dear Terrier World

I would just like to agree with your other letter. Mr. Higgott is a wonderful vet and a very nice man. I have been visiting him at his surgery for 2 years on the recomendation of my Aunt, who has been using Mr. Higgott for some years. Another vet in the Wallasey area misdiagnosed my dog, but Mr. Higgott knew exactly what was wrong with him and made him better.
I would not trust any other vet with my animals. Only last week he neutered my Shih Tzu bitch and she was fine the next day. He is an excellent surgeon. Mr. Higgott has always been friendly, polite and professional with me. I have always found his premises to be clean and tidy when I have visited.
I am at the surgery alot! I have 3 dogs, 10 cats, 4 rabbits, a Hamster and a Tortoise! I would not be able to own all my animals if Mr. Higgott was not a vet. He is the people's vet and long may he be so.

Helen Miles

The Complete Article Can Be Found On The Archive News Page for May Dated May 3, 2008

DOG LEFT DYING IN FILTHY CAGE
WALLASEY
MERSEYSIDE
May 3, 2008
Vet’s position at risk after leaving dying dog in filthy....

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VETERINARY MALPRACTICE 26-05-08

I WOULD LIKE MY COMMENTS TO BE PUBLISHED IN RESPONSE TO YOUR ARTICLE

RE:- MR LESLIE HIGGOTT -- VETERINARY MALPRACTICE.

Dear Terrier World

I have been taking my animals to Mr Higgott for 20 years,and I wouldn't trust another vet with any of them!
He's a wonderful man and an outstanding veterinary whom I've always found to be caring, sensative,respectful, kind, humerous and expertly talented!
What he offers besides his professional practise, is a 100%
genuine service, like no other vet I have ever encountered. Having lived periodically in different parts of the country and kept animals all my life, I have experienced many other vets. None of them have possessed a scrap of the integrity and compassion of this unique man. While I empathize with Mrs Cooks loss, I find it completely unjust that one persons negative experience could erradicate a lifetime of dedicated work.
Other peoples experience and opinions must surely count if we truely live in a democratic society!

M.Galloway

(Wallasey, Merseyside)

The Complete Article Can Be Found On The Archive News Page for May Dated May 3, 2008

DOG LEFT DYING IN FILTHY CAGE
WALLASEY
MERSEYSIDE
May 3, 2008
Vet’s position at risk after leaving dying dog in filthy


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