Staffordshire Bull Manchester 12 Dogs Judge's Critique

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KC Breed Standard Manchester 12 Dogs Judge	STAFFORDSHIRE BULL MANCHESTER 12 Dogs-Judge: Mrs Audrey Hubery Bitches-Judge: Mr T M Hehir BEST OF BREED : 1752 WEISS Mr & Mrs D It's Prince Naseem Great 'n Glory Dog CC : 1752 WEISS Mr & Mrs D It's Prince Naseem Great 'n Glory Res Dog CC : 1667 JONES Mr F & Mrs G Inner Steel Of Foyleoak Bitch CC : 1708 PARTLETT Mrs C Janikastco Miss Hellfyre of Starolestaff Res Bitch CC : 1633 DRAPER Mr A & Mrs G Herodotus Well Lush JW Best Puppy : 1659 HUGHES Mr & Mrs D N Mishdar's Crowd Pleaser Best Veteran : 1721 RIDLEY Mrs C A Ch & Ir Ch Jagsstaff The Advocate Best Breeder : Mr & Mrs WEISS STAFFORDSHIRE BULL JUDGE DOGS MANCHESTER 12 STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER Thank you to the Society for inviting me to judge dogs. Thank you to my steward who did a very good job, but I think it may have been beneficial to have two stewards to oversee the smoother running of the ring. My opinion on the dogs today, well, where do I begin. First of all I would like to mention I was highly delighted with the Staffords I placed, and most that went cardless were just pipped at the post by minor details. My final line-up were exceptional; full of breed type and fitting the standard, not overdone with movement so true without tripping themselves up. All these will change places on another day I am sure. The negatives I say and was disappointed in a few exhibits, I just do not know where the breed is going. I found to my distaste, heads that were far too fleshy, too much wrinkle about the foreface. On opening some mouths I could not find the teeth because of thickness of flesh inside the mouth, if there ever was an altercation, this would be the first point of injury. In some exhibits, lips would reach the bottom of the jaw line. A Stafford has to be clean in lip. Too much more to grab hold of again. Another dislike of mine is long backs, although not many, this point must be addressed as it does not put the Stafford in balance as four square. There were toplines more akin to a Whippet which made movement so erratic. Overloaded shoulders to too much bone is not what we want in our Staffords. Feet, these must be corrected also, I saw splayed flat feet with long toes. A Stafford must move effortlessly with drive, parallel movement not hackney and certainly not restricted on the front. We as breeders must be aware and advise especially our new owners and breeders that it is not always best to breed because they have won a class, it takes careful planning, if not, we will loose breed type. So my opinion, what I found today, fleshy heads, too much thickness in the lips, thickness of flesh inside the mouth, long backs, splayed feet, long toes and movement. Gladly, there were not too many. Sorry for going on, but if not addressed, it may get worse. I was looking for breed type today. Standard not overdone, clean in all departments and moved with drive without tripping themselves over. Dogs I placed today had all this. I was satisfied with all my placings, some who did go cardless where minor points were considered and would and could do better on another day. MPD(11, 3) 1 Thomas' Ashstock Knight Shadow. A soundly constructed red, nice shaped head for age, ears need to settle, they are small, just unsure of his surroundings, dark pigmentation, sound in front, compact body, moved true, well handled. Best PD. 2 Wheeler's Denager Ell. A b/b who I liked a lot in the standard, head not as mature as winner, he had very good pigmentation and clean in head, well placed shoulders into enough rib for age, stood four square, tight in coat and handled with care 3 Nicholson's Rowanblac Lovely Jubbly For Ballindona. Three beautiful puppies. This one was smaller in make than first and second. B/b, his head shape was stronger and good bite, round dark eye. I just liked the little more lift on the higher placed puppies. Positions will change no doubt. Well done. PD(8, 3) 1 Quinn's Diamond Of Blanch Rium Black Steel TAF. Smart puppy of excellent quality, head not overdone, dark eyes which were round, keen expression, tight lipped, clean underjaw, neck in proportion going into well placed shoulders that were correct for a puppy, front not wide, but not narrow, in the standard, level topline, perfect tail set, moved soundly enough but unsure of his surroundings, but should get more confidence as he matures, will watch this one with interest. Well done. 2 Waystaff's Diggers Double. Immature to winner but hands on is a must for this puppy, head of correct shape, good round eyes, ears a shade heavier than first place, he was clean in foreface, on maturity should get fill under the eyes, well shaped neck, front a little narrow than I like but the body made up for it, brisket beginning to drop, he also was unsure of the job in hand, a little timid but enough to like. 3 Kendal's Pitstars Prime Time. Brindle of good body proportions, stronger in head than the winner in this class, powerful in neck, dark pigmentation, level topline, very well presented, would have preferred cleaner underjaw. JD(16, 2) 1 Davies' Eclypstaff Cuz I Can. Of course you can. B/b who is right on standard. Not overdone in any department, as a junior should look. Another that should have hands on. On looking I thought not quite enough for me, but was wrong. Head strong and correct ratio without coarseness, he used his ears to advantage and were of correct shape, black nose and nails. I liked his front, that was true, elbows tucked in, ample rib going into a nice tuck up in loins, not a great bend of stifle but a good let down of hock, he did move soundly, although closer on the hindquarters, moved with care. I will watch this one as he matures. Well done. 2 Plant's Kyraloebis Italion Gigalo. What an outstanding youngster who, I feel will go far if he continues how he looks. A b/b, stronger all round than first, punishing head piece with the darkest of eyes, gleaming, tight lipped and perfect bite, very clean underjaw into well laid shoulders, a bit softer to the touch but with maturity and work should excel into a very promising Stafford. This class was very close, my deciding factor on the day was the cleanness of winner. Two lovely dogs that can grace my couch, separately, of course. 3 Stanway's Waystaff Strikes Out. Pied of quality, just liked the overall picture of the first two. Head of correct shape, just needs to mature, soft to the touch, good pigmentation, round dark eye which gave him that keen expression. Although short in stop, he carried a tad more in lip but as his head develops this should balance it out. Level topline and moved with care, soundly put together. YD(10, 2) 1 Bruton's Zacstaff Dark Knight. B/b, bang on standard, strong head, ears well placed, round eyes fill in under the eyes gave him the correct expression, cheek bumps apparent without being overdone, clean in lip and big teeth, muscular neck into well laid shoulders, ample rib for heart and lungs, he was short on back and coupling, he stood four square and movement was sound after moving him a couple of times. My deciding factor in the line-up was the cleaner lines, as he matures no doubt he will attain this. Well done. 2 Rault's Staffanatic's Falcon Air Force One. B/b who deserved his place today, not the biggest of heads but is not just about the head, correct shape with dark eyes, longer in stop than winner but no exaggeration, tight lipped with good level bite, neck with slight arch into not overloaded shoulders, he had the little lift on front legs with enough bone, ribs beginning to develop and nicely tucked up, he was expertly handled, on maturity should trouble the best. 3 Harkin's Harkline Mr Grimsdale. A promising youngster in good tight coat. I liked his head shape, better than the winners, but the overall package I preferred the little bit of lift on the front, very well presented. PGD(13, 3) 1 Jones' Innersteel Of Foyleok. What a cracking Stafford. Red of quality, have seen from afar in puppy and junior, did not look twice then, but today he demanded attention. I liked his overall type, not overdone head, clean but strong, lovely ears which he used to his advantage, good pigmentation, cheek muscles pronounced into tight lips, level bite and strong underjaw, muscular shortish neck, front so sound, shoulders clean, not over muscular, deep in chest leading into a good tuck up and level topline. He is so well balanced and fits the standard well, it was a close decision, my deciding factor, I would have liked a little more muscletone on hams to complete the whole picture. He secured the RCC. Well done. 2 Dearman's Blazenstaffs Sacrifice. Another quality deeper red, a little more about this one than first but nothing to dislike. Head and foreface stronger but still balanced, wider in front. I liked his bone structure, straight in legs with good feet, good spring of rib, a shade longer in back but still short coupled, very well constructed, this one had the muscle definition, but my final opinion was I preferred the compactness of winner. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to go over these two. Well done. 3 Price's Little Beau Gest. A lovely headed male, clean in foreface and tight lipped, short, tight coat, in good condition, a little longer in back, he was full of breed type, not overdone, he did move effortlessly, well handled in good competition today. LD(16, 1) 1 Scanlon's Aboriginal One An Only. Another quality class with placings changing on another day. A b/b in the standard height and weight, good width of skull, carrying a rose ear and darkest of eyes, fill under the eyes complimented his keen expression, just the right amount of bone without being too dense, tight feet, ample rib with level topline, short on back, good bend of stifle which he used with power on the move when he settled down. Presented with care. 2 Fowell &Morris' Rowell Mr Ferguson. A handsome red who I have admired from the ringside, he did not disappoint, stronger in all departments than first. This breed is just not a head breed it is the total package, powerful in front with straight legs, well laid shoulders with well sprung ribs, longer in back but still short coupled, level topline and muscular hindquarters. I felt he moved better than winner going away but again looked for the whole picture and this was compactness, not a lot in this one, very close decision. Well done. 3 Plant's Lackyle Aonread Aineas. B/b, I just loved this dog, again he was in very good company today. My closest class of the day. Powerful in head with nice set on of ears, very strong in muzzle, a tad more lip than first and second, strong underjaw, I liked his expression, powerful neck with excellent shoulders, elbows tucked in, brisket deep without being overdone, well tucked up and level topline, neat whip tail, he moved so true. Today I preferred the shortness. Three beautiful Staffords. OD(17, 3) An excellent class, the decisions were so close, there was just a minute factor. I was pleased with my five placings, those that did not make the cut, it was minimal. 1 Weiss' It's Prince Naseem Great'n Glory. B/b who excels in quality, the standard was written for this Stafford. Through my classes I was looking for breed type, standard not overdone. No exaggerations, for me this dog had it. 16 inches, 38 lbs, head in proportion to his compact body, very keen expression, dark round eyes, nicely filled in under the eyes, black nose and lips, good mouth with big teeth, he was clean under jaw with powerful neck tapering into well laid shoulders, leg length was just right, ample brisket to balance his short back and level topline, with excellent tuck up, hindquarters were strong without being over angulated, he moved so effortlessly, maybe a smidgeon close, but the perfect Stafford has not been bred yet this dog is so full of breed type and a bonus, he had ring presence and was handled to advantage. He was my CC, BOB with joint decision from Tom Hehir. The dog did not disgrace the breed in the Group where he attained Group 4. Very well done and thank you for the privilege of judging a fine example of the breed. 2 Scarlett's Ch Ramblestaff Ebenezer Good JW. B/b of the same make and shape, a worthy champion who fits the standard, a little stronger head than winner, so clean in skull, correct ear carriage. I liked his keen expression, good bite and very tight lipped, he had a powerful neck without being coarse, smooth coat which was in excellent condition, he had a good spring of rib, short and compact body, moved soundly. Close decisions on first in post grad, first in open and second in open. Thank you. 3 Williams' Hubbulls Nebraska At Mourtarw. A beautiful looking red who caught my eye, well constructed body with a blend of bull and terrier, very good head, darkest of pigmentation, he had a little more lip than the other two but strong underjaw, well muscled neck, well off for rib and a shade longer in back. I liked his strong back end which he used without effort on the move. Three outstanding Staffords. VD(1) 1 Ridley's Ch Jagstaff The Advocate. Still full of breed type and keeping his head shape, seemed to enjoy his day and moved without a care in the world, worthy champion. GCD(2) 1 Pearce's Quatrus Gentle Lad. He stood four square, good enough head with round eyes, keen expression, not overdone, moved with care. He was placed fourth in yearling. 2 Priest's Mintmar Got The Look. Strong in head, a b/b who was a little light in the eye and carried some weight today. Mrs A. Hubery Go To Top Of Page
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Staffordshire

Manchester 12 Dogs Judge's Critique

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Manchester 12 Dogs Judge

STAFFORDSHIRE BULL MANCHESTER 12

Dogs-Judge: Mrs Audrey Hubery
Bitches-Judge: Mr T M Hehir

BEST OF BREED : 1752 WEISS Mr & Mrs D It's Prince Naseem Great 'n Glory
Dog CC : 1752 WEISS Mr & Mrs D It's Prince Naseem Great 'n Glory
Res Dog CC : 1667 JONES Mr F & Mrs G Inner Steel Of Foyleoak
Bitch CC : 1708 PARTLETT Mrs C Janikastco Miss Hellfyre of Starolestaff
Res Bitch CC : 1633 DRAPER Mr A & Mrs G Herodotus Well Lush JW
Best Puppy : 1659 HUGHES Mr & Mrs D N Mishdar's Crowd Pleaser
Best Veteran : 1721 RIDLEY Mrs C A Ch & Ir Ch Jagsstaff The Advocate
Best Breeder : Mr & Mrs WEISS

STAFFORDSHIRE BULL JUDGE DOGS MANCHESTER 12

STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER

Thank you to the Society for inviting me to judge dogs. Thank you to my steward who did a very good job, but I think it may have been beneficial to have two stewards to oversee the smoother running of the ring. My opinion on the dogs today, well, where do I begin. First of all I would like to mention I was highly delighted with the Staffords I placed, and most that went cardless were just pipped at the post by minor details. My final line-up were exceptional; full of breed type and fitting the standard, not overdone with movement so true without tripping themselves up. All these will change places on another day I am sure. The negatives I say and was disappointed in a few exhibits, I just do not know where the breed is going. I found to my distaste, heads that were far too fleshy, too much wrinkle about the foreface. On opening some mouths I could not find the teeth because of thickness of flesh inside the mouth, if there ever was an altercation, this would be the first point of injury. In some exhibits, lips would reach the bottom of the jaw line. A Stafford has to be clean in lip. Too much more to grab hold of again. Another dislike of mine is long backs, although not many, this point must be addressed as it does not put the Stafford in balance as four square. There were toplines more akin to a Whippet which made movement so erratic. Overloaded shoulders to too much bone is not what we want in our Staffords. Feet, these must be corrected also, I saw splayed flat feet with long toes. A Stafford must move effortlessly with drive, parallel movement not hackney and certainly not restricted on the front. We as breeders must be aware and advise especially our new owners and breeders that it is not always best to breed because they have won a class, it takes careful planning, if not, we will loose breed type. So my opinion, what I found today, fleshy heads, too much thickness in the lips, thickness of flesh inside the mouth, long backs, splayed feet, long toes and movement. Gladly, there were not too many. Sorry for going on, but if not addressed, it may get worse. I was looking for breed type today. Standard not overdone, clean in all departments and moved with drive without tripping themselves over. Dogs I placed today had all this. I was satisfied with all my placings, some who did go cardless where minor points were considered and would and could do better on another day.

MPD(11, 3)

1 Thomas' Ashstock Knight Shadow. A soundly constructed red, nice shaped head for age, ears need to settle, they are small, just unsure of his surroundings, dark pigmentation, sound in front, compact body, moved true, well handled. Best PD.

2 Wheeler's Denager Ell. A b/b who I liked a lot in the standard, head not as mature as winner, he had very good pigmentation and clean in head, well placed shoulders into enough rib for age, stood four square, tight in coat and handled with care

3 Nicholson's Rowanblac Lovely Jubbly For Ballindona. Three beautiful puppies. This one was smaller in make than first and second. B/b, his head shape was stronger and good bite, round dark eye. I just liked the little more lift on the higher placed puppies. Positions will change no doubt. Well done.

PD(8, 3)

1 Quinn's Diamond Of Blanch Rium Black Steel TAF. Smart puppy of excellent quality, head not overdone, dark eyes which were round, keen expression, tight lipped, clean underjaw, neck in proportion going into well placed shoulders that were correct for a puppy, front not wide, but not narrow, in the standard, level topline, perfect tail set, moved soundly enough but unsure of his surroundings, but should get more confidence as he matures, will watch this one with interest. Well done.

2 Waystaff's Diggers Double. Immature to winner but hands on is a must for this puppy, head of correct shape, good round eyes, ears a shade heavier than first place, he was clean in foreface, on maturity should get fill under the eyes, well shaped neck, front a little narrow than I like but the body made up for it, brisket beginning to drop, he also was unsure of the job in hand, a little timid but enough to like.

3 Kendal's Pitstars Prime Time. Brindle of good body proportions, stronger in head than the winner in this class, powerful in neck, dark pigmentation, level topline, very well presented, would have preferred cleaner underjaw.

JD(16, 2)

1 Davies' Eclypstaff Cuz I Can. Of course you can. B/b who is right on standard. Not overdone in any department, as a junior should look. Another that should have hands on. On looking I thought not quite enough for me, but was wrong. Head strong and correct ratio without coarseness, he used his ears to advantage and were of correct shape, black nose and nails. I liked his front, that was true, elbows tucked in, ample rib going into a nice tuck up in loins, not a great bend of stifle but a good let down of hock, he did move soundly, although closer on the hindquarters, moved with care. I will watch this one as he matures. Well done.

2 Plant's Kyraloebis Italion Gigalo. What an outstanding youngster who, I feel will go far if he continues how he looks. A b/b, stronger all round than first, punishing head piece with the darkest of eyes, gleaming, tight lipped and perfect bite, very clean underjaw into well laid shoulders, a bit softer to the touch but with maturity and work should excel into a very promising Stafford. This class was very close, my deciding factor on the day was the cleanness of winner. Two lovely dogs that can grace my couch, separately, of course.

3 Stanway's Waystaff Strikes Out. Pied of quality, just liked the overall picture of the first two. Head of correct shape, just needs to mature, soft to the touch, good pigmentation, round dark eye which gave him that keen expression. Although short in stop, he carried a tad more in lip but as his head develops this should balance it out. Level topline and moved with care, soundly put together.

YD(10, 2)

1 Bruton's Zacstaff Dark Knight. B/b, bang on standard, strong head, ears well placed, round eyes fill in under the eyes gave him the correct expression, cheek bumps apparent without being overdone, clean in lip and big teeth, muscular neck into well laid shoulders, ample rib for heart and lungs, he was short on back and coupling, he stood four square and movement was sound after moving him a couple of times. My deciding factor in the line-up was the cleaner lines, as he matures no doubt he will attain this. Well done.

2 Rault's Staffanatic's Falcon Air Force One. B/b who deserved his place today, not the biggest of heads but is not just about the head, correct shape with dark eyes, longer in stop than winner but no exaggeration, tight lipped with good level bite, neck with slight arch into not overloaded shoulders, he had the little lift on front legs with enough bone, ribs beginning to develop and nicely tucked up, he was expertly handled, on maturity should trouble the best.

3 Harkin's Harkline Mr Grimsdale. A promising youngster in good tight coat. I liked his head shape, better than the winners, but the overall package I preferred the little bit of lift on the front, very well presented.

PGD(13, 3)

1 Jones' Innersteel Of Foyleok. What a cracking Stafford. Red of quality, have seen from afar in puppy and junior, did not look twice then, but today he demanded attention. I liked his overall type, not overdone head, clean but strong, lovely ears which he used to his advantage, good pigmentation, cheek muscles pronounced into tight lips, level bite and strong underjaw, muscular shortish neck, front so sound, shoulders clean, not over muscular, deep in chest leading into a good tuck up and level topline. He is so well balanced and fits the standard well, it was a close decision, my deciding factor, I would have liked a little more muscletone on hams to complete the whole picture. He secured the RCC. Well done.

2 Dearman's Blazenstaffs Sacrifice. Another quality deeper red, a little more about this one than first but nothing to dislike. Head and foreface stronger but still balanced, wider in front. I liked his bone structure, straight in legs with good feet, good spring of rib, a shade longer in back but still short coupled, very well constructed, this one had the muscle definition, but my final opinion was I preferred the compactness of winner. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to go over these two. Well done.

3 Price's Little Beau Gest. A lovely headed male, clean in foreface and tight lipped, short, tight coat, in good condition, a little longer in back, he was full of breed type, not overdone, he did move effortlessly, well handled in good competition today.

LD(16, 1)

1 Scanlon's Aboriginal One An Only. Another quality class with placings changing on another day. A b/b in the standard height and weight, good width of skull, carrying a rose ear and darkest of eyes, fill under the eyes complimented his keen expression, just the right amount of bone without being too dense, tight feet, ample rib with level topline, short on back, good bend of stifle which he used with power on the move when he settled down. Presented with care.

2 Fowell &Morris' Rowell Mr Ferguson. A handsome red who I have admired from the ringside, he did not disappoint, stronger in all departments than first. This breed is just not a head breed it is the total package, powerful in front with straight legs, well laid shoulders with well sprung ribs, longer in back but still short coupled, level topline and muscular hindquarters. I felt he moved better than winner going away but again looked for the whole picture and this was compactness, not a lot in this one, very close decision. Well done.

3 Plant's Lackyle Aonread Aineas. B/b, I just loved this dog, again he was in very good company today. My closest class of the day. Powerful in head with nice set on of ears, very strong in muzzle, a tad more lip than first and second, strong underjaw, I liked his expression, powerful neck with excellent shoulders, elbows tucked in, brisket deep without being overdone, well tucked up and level topline, neat whip tail, he moved so true. Today I preferred the shortness. Three beautiful Staffords.

OD(17, 3)

An excellent class, the decisions were so close, there was just a minute factor. I was pleased with my five placings, those that did not make the cut, it was minimal.

1 Weiss' It's Prince Naseem Great'n Glory. B/b who excels in quality, the standard was written for this Stafford. Through my classes I was looking for breed type, standard not overdone. No exaggerations, for me this dog had it. 16 inches, 38 lbs, head in proportion to his compact body, very keen expression, dark round eyes, nicely filled in under the eyes, black nose and lips, good mouth with big teeth, he was clean under jaw with powerful neck tapering into well laid shoulders, leg length was just right, ample brisket to balance his short back and level topline, with excellent tuck up, hindquarters were strong without being over angulated, he moved so effortlessly, maybe a smidgeon close, but the perfect Stafford has not been bred yet this dog is so full of breed type and a bonus, he had ring presence and was handled to advantage. He was my CC, BOB with joint decision from Tom Hehir. The dog did not disgrace the breed in the Group where he attained Group 4. Very well done and thank you for the privilege of judging a fine example of the breed.

2 Scarlett's Ch Ramblestaff Ebenezer Good JW. B/b of the same make and shape, a worthy champion who fits the standard, a little stronger head than winner, so clean in skull, correct ear carriage. I liked his keen expression, good bite and very tight lipped, he had a powerful neck without being coarse, smooth coat which was in excellent condition, he had a good spring of rib, short and compact body, moved soundly. Close decisions on first in post grad, first in open and second in open. Thank you.

3 Williams' Hubbulls Nebraska At Mourtarw. A beautiful looking red who caught my eye, well constructed body with a blend of bull and terrier, very good head, darkest of pigmentation, he had a little more lip than the other two but strong underjaw, well muscled neck, well off for rib and a shade longer in back. I liked his strong back end which he used without effort on the move. Three outstanding Staffords.

VD(1)

1 Ridley's Ch Jagstaff The Advocate. Still full of breed type and keeping his head shape, seemed to enjoy his day and moved without a care in the world, worthy champion.

GCD(2)

1 Pearce's Quatrus Gentle Lad. He stood four square, good enough head with round eyes, keen expression, not overdone, moved with care. He was placed fourth in yearling. 2 Priest's Mintmar Got The Look. Strong in head, a b/b who was a little light in the eye and carried some weight today.

Mrs A. Hubery

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